Lush-Beauty

The problem in brief is this: If there is an All-loving God, how could He allow natural disasters to happen?

-Omnipotent-- All powerful
-Omnipresent--All presnt
-Omniscient--All knowing

The important question about God regarding the problem of evil is: If God is Good, why does He allow evil?

The answer is that a good God may allow evil if He has a good reason. And we need not know God's reasons for allowing evil, because Allah says in the Quran that we are given only very little knowledge:
of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!) (Al-Israa' 17:85)

Therefore, it would be enough if we know of a possible reason for God to allow evil to exist. And from the Quran we can understand that Allah has given humans free will, in order to test them to prove who is better in good deedsEvery soul shall have a taste of death: and We test you by evil and by good by way of trial; to Us must ye return. (Al-Anbiyaa' 21:35

Aftr all what do u thnk Does Evil Exists or na?
Who creatd Evil God or people?

Colourful eyes

Hear no evil, see no evil speak no evil...

Lush-Beauty

^ Its philosophy

Obama

To live in this World of ours and still ask.............does Evil exist?

Well young lady denying the truth ain't go make it disappear.........

diwana

Nah! No evil exists. Everything is fine and dandy. :-)


Does evil exist?
How is it a philosophical question?

Do we need a discussion, deep thinking etc. on it?

Now who created it can be discussed.

Depends what one believes, how one believes, many answers can be extrapolated.

One answer:

Evil is not natural disasters. These are just bad natural phenomenon and unless created by human error cannot be considered 'evil'.

Evil is a negative attribute to human who has a choice of either being bad or good and has to some degree of responsibility attached to it.

Temptations, greed, maltreatment of others etc. can be considered evil.

Evil is created in to human along with good. The responsibility is on human to keep evil minimized and good overpowering the evil.

PrinceMS

You may want to read up on the conept of "Ying And Yang".
Essentially - Think Good and Evil of as White and Black. They are dependent on each other to exist. One CANNOT exist without the other. You cannot have a Black without White (and vice versa). There cannot be good without evil - that is the nature of things.

Although Good and bad are subjective concepts (which change person to person etc) - they are not absolute - there are infinite many options in between.

If you didn't understand all that - Here is a lazy man version:
God has given you choices and (philosophical) tools - the use of them makes things Good or Bad (according to your understanding). Just like you can take a knife and cut an orange for someone - or take ito stab someone.

fbi786

you ve just opened a can of worms ...

be prepared for debates .. ..

i ll add my say later but i gotta read some stories first as to what others got to say

Numb

oH no what question! How if we would simply abandon evil and never talk about it again!?

Simple answer is,

someone who looks for trouble, he will get trouble!

Lush-Beauty

Guys its Philosphy section and i posted this thread cz i m stuyding these days
Does Evil Exists and who creatd it? It doesnt mean i dunt knw any thing.I m Muslim and i knw islamic view about Evil But i wantd 2 knw what u pople think who knw philosophical answer! as

-Irenaean Theodicy
-Augustinian Theodicy

God Creatd EVil, lil lack of goodness left.This lack of goodness causes evil.
If the result is same at the end thn y do we suffr.

vigoratus

Evil does exist. What keeps us from becoming prey to the evil is our blessed gift that God/Allah granted is, the Will power. The power to follow an action and go through with it, or to deny it and refrain from it.

At the end of the day, evil may be evil, but we are held accountable for our actions because we allowed to evil to lead us to the result we end up with.

God created Adam and elevated Him above all the other creations. Termed the creation Ashraf-al-Makhlookat *The superior creation*, and commanded the ever-worshipping angels to bow to Adam. An honor so high, yet some humans humiliate that honor bestowed on them by committing acts of treason against the creator and falling prey to evil, the banished wicked being we call Satan/Shaytan.

"You purchase a brand new car, you are reckless with it and it crashes. You start to curse the maker of the car, instead of blaming yourself for the recklessness". God is not responsible for what we do in this life, we are responsible for it. He has granted us the benefit of using this utility of life and all its limited powers to do good.

Punjabee in USA

^ I agree with Vigoratus. God created good & evil, and gave us humans the intelligence to distinguish between the two. What choice we make will determine what happens to us in the after life. Think of it as a weeding out mechanism

If I am not wrong, most major religions have this one thing in common.

Zardarii

evils are everywhere u need to find out

BUSH.... mushraf....rice..... main khud .................baqi sub world main leader evils he to hain

Med911

No act is evil or good, its only the results that they produce. Sometimes a seemingly evil act may produce a greater good, while a precieved good may produce an result that can be seen as evil.

psyah

From another angle we can modularise evil:

1) The intent
2) The act
3) The effect

The above can be either evil or not evil. When all three are evill then this is clear, sometimes, the first two can be in an evil state but the effect does not manifest into evil or it does not spread more evil. This is arguably still evil. A failed murder for example. When an act is evil but the intent was not and it caused harm this is injustice but is the person accountable? When the intent is evil and the act is not, but the effect is? When an evil intent comes in but neither the act is manifest nor the effects seen can this be evil?

It seems an evil intent needs to be there always for something to be called evil, but by itself it is not evil unless it comes with an evil effect or an evil act regardless of the third condition.

MatineeSiren

The concept of evil is highly subjective to many, unless one considers evil from a perspective of universalism (i.e. objective/"the same everywhere," morality). Concerning the Islamic standard where one's moral code is determined by the dogma from an outside (not internal), source (authority and social-order maintaining orientation), this falls within the category of universalism.

Evil stems from God, because everything stems from God. Though it may be people who perpetrate evil acts, that ability (and thus their abilities to commit such acts), are solely bestowed by God. Natural disasters are not traditionally considered evil, as they are born from non sentient substances-- therefore they cannot suggest any intent (so it can't be good or evil).

However, the concept of free will and thus the will to commit "evil," acts is complicated as we are products of our socialization. We do not choose where we are born, what community we are born into, or how we are raised. These factors shape our outlook and even the ways in which we approach situations. Even our biases are not solely our own.

Furthermore, free will (apart from what I spoke on prior), can be dictated by a system of pro's and con's. Con's being suffering, pro's being preventing or relieving suffering. Is it really your choice if you choose to stop watching your favorite tv show to get up and pray? One weighs the consequences of both actions-- "If I get up to pray I will miss the season finale of my show and become very agitated when I have to wait for the rerun/I won't be able to discuss it when the topic arises in my social circle," to "If I do not pray I will feel guilty/I will suffer in the afterlife." Whichever action is deemed to incur the least suffering one will naturally take. Don't forget though, we must also consider that suffering is not relegated solely to physical suffering.

The concept of "testing," is negated at this point as God is omniscient. If he knows the answer, then the test is irrelevant. Furthermore, any justification that it teaches us something is shaky as we do not choose our emotional responses or our motivations (they are ingrained from our biology and our social conditioning) to commit these acts or not to.

If we consider God to be the end all be all of everything, then we must consider that God IS everything. As such, God is light and dark, "good," and "evil."