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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 01:52 PM   #1 (permalink)  
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Everything remains the same, only life expectancy changes, how the world be different. Few questions that come to my mind.

1. Would the life (of 20 years) be sufficient enough for human specie to be able survive for so many thousand (and maybe millions) of years?

If its average of 12 years of age before human hits puberty, means he/she would have only 8 years to mate and reproduce vs technically about 30-35 years available to us to mate an reproduce as of now.

is that period of 8 years good enough to reproduce so many humans for us to survive for that long.

2. Would we be striving to develop ourselves, go to schools and educate and then be ready to financially support our life.

Right now, it takes about 18 years of education (considering that we start learning at age of 5), means we hit 22-23 before we become a professional. If you have 20 years to live, I doubt if humans would be spending that amount of time to educate themselves.

3. Education would not be existing at the level anyways cause no one would have discovered, invented, theorized or researched upon anything. It takes an individual, years and years to ponder upon the mysteries of universe and the world around us to come up with any valuable conclusion. Those Sciences would not be in existence for anyone to go to school and learn them



What would be our life style then? You think we would still be living in modern cities with all the technologies around us or would be living in caves, just taking care of our basic needs of shelter, food and sex?







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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 06:05 PM   #2 (permalink)  
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I guess Tlk jee aap ko roza lagging. Gulp some of that H2O now. Ok, how about... Now!

Lets see, life expectancy of only 20 years... Leads to...

A catastrophe in every sense. Life would be a total disaster. Now when we say life expectancy of 20... it may also mean on average it might be a bit less, like 19.. and under developed nations would be a bit lesser. What can a human achieve, perceive, observe, retain, maintain, develop, disintegrate, distinguish... in only 19 years of his life cycle. I bet there would be not term as maturity in the dictionary either. And there would be nothing called as Tradition. Atleast the tradtitons that we know of.

caves??? I do opt for that. And they would not be even luxurious, 'cos till man's brain kicks in, he's already gone.

No world as we know it.

Might be a good script for next motion picture.

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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 06:11 PM   #3 (permalink)  
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5 more hours to go so no paani, thanks...

BTW, good points but term maturity is very relative in nature. A 10 yrs old think that he is more mature than his 7 yrs old brother while his 15 years old sister might take him as an immature guy. So I doubt if word maturity would disappear from the dictionary.

Would we have dictionary during such times is another thing






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Why you ask such question which is never gonna happen? Bohat time hai waste karnay ke liye ?????







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lo ji, life1 is full of hypothetical scenarios and you never objected to that. iss bachchay ne eik maasoom sawaal pooch liya to aap ko bura lug gaya






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considering how the average lifespan was just 40 only a few generations ago, it isn't too hard to imagine a situation like that.

what would happen, is that college education would be forgoed. forget that even. if a child manages to go through grade 3, it would be a big deal. children would go through puberty much earlier, and it wouldn't be hard to imagine a 16 year old with grandkids.

at the same time, the gestation period either will shorten to thta of a mouse, or it would be common for human to have 3-4+ children everytime they give birth.







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at the same time, the gestation period either will shorten to thta of a mouse, or it would be common for human to have 3-4+ children everytime they give birth.
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^^ kiyun jee...hypothetical scenario hai






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5 more hours to go so no paani, thanks...

BTW, good points but term maturity is very relative in nature. A 10 yrs old think that he is more mature than his 7 yrs old brother while his 15 years old sister might take him as an immature guy. So I doubt if word maturity would disappear from the dictionary.

Would we have dictionary during such times is another thing
Well, my point was... maturity in sense like, when actually u are a grown up to have ur own family and as such. U know... Even In our religion we have certain obligations... when u ought to marry...flan flan... what ever... where's my water? 5 ghante ba'd mera to life cycle tamam ho jaye ga... Jeez people are just so meannnnnnnnnn!






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aray, hypothetical situations main common sense kiya ghaas charnay chali jaati hai ..






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considering how the average lifespan was just 40 only a few generations ago, it isn't too hard to imagine a situation like that.

what would happen, is that college education would be forgoed. forget that even. if a child manages to go through grade 3, it would be a big deal. children would go through puberty much earlier, and it wouldn't be hard to imagine a 16 year old with grandkids.

at the same time, the gestation period either will shorten to thta of a mouse, or it would be common for human to have 3-4+ children everytime they give birth.
It might be that the children grew like in the days of Hazrat-e-Adam (AS).
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Old Aug 29th, 2009, 02:02 PM   #14 (permalink)  
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It might be that the children grew like in the days of Hazrat-e-Adam (AS).
Hypothetically (not)
At that time, circumstances were different. People lived for hundreds of years, and they had to populate the earth with human beings. Hence Bibi Hawa having a child in the morning and a child in the evening. But we're talking (i think) about a scenario in which the population has settled down, and there isn't a major concern of population






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If i read this correctly (and this was at 5 am) , then it's saying that portion of the animal's life is dedicated to giving birth/raising an offspring. Which is a significant proportion of the life span.

Also, you can look at the relative sizes of animals, as well as relative gestation periods as well, and it makes sense that either the gestation period would shorten or there would be more babies at once. Evolutionarily speaking as well, the species that had a chance to survive, were either the large animals, or the ones with lots and lots of babies. Humans and other apes have the advantage that even though they have only 1 offspring per gestation, they are programmed to raise that helpless infant. That's how they had the chance to survive as a species by having only 1 kid. Or, you have the case of the hoofed animals, which are able to run around immediately after being born, so they are pretty self-sufficient, unlike humans. In that case, they can afford to have only 1 offspring.

Elephant: Gestation 22 mths, Lifespan (in wild) 50-60 years. Females can reproduce at 13 years of age
Chimp: 40 years lifespan in wild, gestation 8 months, sexual maturity at 8 years
Mouse: Gestation: 20 days, able to breed at 50 days, lifespan 4 months in wild, 2 years in a lab setting.






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Very nice information Khumar. I honestly enjoyed reading it (your part, I have not read the article yet) ..

I still dont understand that how a large animal like human can have gestation period of a mouse. You like to believe that nature will play that trick on us for us to survive, which I kind of agree. Nature has been biased in many cases and you find anomalies where a phenomenan occured against all logics.






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Nature is nvr biased nt even in a single case ... i dont agree with u TLK ...btw y u feel lik thss ?????






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Very nice information Khumar. I honestly enjoyed reading it (your part, I have not read the article yet) ..

I still dont understand that how a large animal like human can have gestation period of a mouse. You like to believe that nature will play that trick on us for us to survive, which I kind of agree. Nature has been biased in many cases and you find anomalies where a phenomenan occured against all logics.
No i'm not saying gestation period would be 22 days. I'm saying instead of being for 9 months, it might shorten to 6, 7 or 8 months. Mice are tiny animals, and their offspring, much like a lot of other rodents and marsupial aren't fully developed. They develop after being born. Humans on the other hand we are assuming will still be giving birth to small human beings. Complete with everything needed for survival






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people wld never waste time marrying each other if they were gona die in 20yrs lol

life wld have been better...to the point & focused!






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^Or may be they'd haste to get married and have children.







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