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      While speaking to an individual few days ago, the topic of inter-sect marriage in Islam came up. Given that I am only aware of the stance(s) from a Sunni perspective, I assured this individual that I’ll start a thread on a message board that I visit and get more feedback, as there are members of other sects present who could provide me with detailed answers based on the ruling(s) that they follow.

      Therefore, I’d appreciate it if I could get relevant and sensible responses as to what are the stances on:

      -Sunni marrying a Shia and vice versa
      -Sunni marrying an Ahmadi and vice versa
      -Shia marrying an Ahmadi and vice versa

      I’m aware that there are many other sects that I have failed to mention. Views on inter-sect marriages amongst those sects would also be appreciated. In addition, it would be helpful if the members can provide insight on the results of inter-sect marriages from first hand experience. This experience could be a personal one, of a family member, friend, or an acquaintance.

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      I'm a bachelor but i've observed some instances of intersect marriages.In a family which happens to be our family friends a few decades ago some of the members converted to shi'a sect from the originally sunni background.Later on intersect marriages took place among them but everything is going quite normal.On the other hand,in case of a friend who belongs to ahmadi community,it happened that despite mutual understanding between a highly educated sunni girl and that guy ,the resentment of both their families forced them to shun this idea.So in my opinion it depends on various factors like family background ,educational level of families,surrounding environment etc.some decisions may be difficult in rural Pakistani areas but simple in Toronto.I think in current scenario shi'a-sunni or other intersect marriages in moderate families r quite acceptable(but marriages with ahmadi community r not known so far)

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      With no offence to Ahmediz. Ahmediz marrying Sunni must be allowed since I know atleast two examples here where Ahmedi guy not only married Sunni girls but also didn't let the girl's parents know who they really are. These were love marriages ofcourse with the agreement and will of both families. One girl has got devorced right away but the other one is seperated from the guy and living with her parents hoping that the guy may convert one day. Silly, she should spit on his face for betraying her like this. If you look at the North and West of GTA you will find many families affected.
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      in west muslims don't bother about sects.
      Last edited by Sadiyah; Apr 14th, 2006 at 02:16 PM.

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      Love teaches truth not deception .you have quoted incidents based on lust rather love.

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      Quote Originally Posted by hareem01
      in west muslims don't bother about sects.
      The topic is about inter-sect marriages, not bashing Ahmadies.

      In the west, Muslims do care about their sects which is why the majority of us marry within our sect, be it Sunni, Shia, Ismaili, etc. That's a pretty ignorant comment you have made by saying Muslims here don't bother about sects.
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      My question is, why hide your identity. Show other what you are and then see if its love or lust or how much the other person care about being from a different sect or religion. I think its a fair demand.
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      ^problems in such marriages are more of cultural than religious nature

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      i agree

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      To a large extent it depends on socio-cultural value system in a society .what to speak of inter-sect or inter-faith marriages;inter-caste marriages are still considered taboo in many cases in India & Pakistan.

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      Well I have seen Shia and Sunnis marrying but never an ahmadie or sunni. The only ahmadie and sunni marriage I saw was pretty horrible. The girl was thrown out of her jamat and her in laws treated her like garbage even though she converted and was sunni. Their was a girl in high school whos mom was ismaili and her father was sunni and they seemed a bit lost in terms of religion. They went to both jamat khana and the sunni mosque. From what I hear ismailis are quite different from sunnis in terms of how they pray and their beliefs.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MehnazQ
      That's a pretty ignorant comment you have made by saying Muslims here don't bother about sects.
      safe to say most do but there r those who dont so hareems comment is not ignorant.she dealt in absolutes and ur doing the same thing.

      things r changing.lie,drink alcohol,fornicate,backbite but marry within sects is a norm among many.some even live with strippers and all i say is wat i have witnessed.

      my cousin married a qadyani.they r divorced now.

      but really who cares.
      All of us have convinced ourselves that our way is the best way, our logic is the perfect logic and those who do not conform to our thinking must be criticized and steered to the right direction, our direction .............. therefore Gupshup exists.

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      Looks like you have been greatly inspired, influenced and "affected" by nicols_john
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      I dont think that intersect marriges should be there as they creat long term problems for the couple and families.
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      i think its still a pretty big deal, marrying outside your sect regardless of whether you're in or outside Pakistan. I know one inter-sect marriage in my extended family, sunni girl married a shia guy, and in that case the girl became shia. Her family has some issues, one brother is very hardcore takfeeri type sunni who believes shias to be kafirs. others dont.

      i think as long as both sides recognize each other as Muslims and practices are reasonably similar there is a good chance of acceptance. Shias and sunnies are more amenable to doing that with each other, compared to ahmedis who have been legislated as non Muslims in Pakistan, and Ismailis who have drastically different practices (as far as I understand it no namaz, no roza in exchange for donations at the jamaat khana)
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      Lahore 981, I haven't been influenced by anyone. In my initial post I clarified that I needed religious verdicts (fatawa) and personal experiences, so that I can forward them on and not for the reason to entertain myself.

      As for the remainder, please stick to the topic. Don't turn it into a 'let's back Ahmadis' thread.

      I'd appreciate it if we can have fatawa from different sects on inter-sect marriages as well as more first hand experiences would be helpful.


      Referring back to the topic, I personally know of one inter-sect marriage. The husband's a Sunni and his wife's Shia. However, they had family terms and I believe the two sides are tolerant. Therefore, I don't think there are any serious problems, if at all any.
      Last edited by Sadiyah; Apr 15th, 2006 at 11:46 AM.

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      I don't know if any "scholar" of one MAJOR sect (shia, sunni etc.) would allow 'inter-sect' marriages as most of them don't consider other sects as part of Islam to begin with, it doesn't mean that they are busy in telling everyone that other sects are out but keep quiet about it. Ahmedis are perhaps totally out of "sect" equation as neither Shias nor Sunnis consider them to be part of Islam.

      Inter-sect marriage might work out if one of the spouse is weak in his/her sect teachings/followings but would be very tough if both are moderate++ followers.

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      as far as i believe,
      the defination of islam is
      I belive in ALLAH and ALSO that prophet Mohammed (PbUH) IS THE LAST AND TRUE MESSENGER OF ALLAH. and there will be no messenger of ALLAH after Him.
      so THIS is my defination of Muslim also.
      and strictly i personally dont believe in sects,shias sunni, I personally am a Muslim only,
      so as far as marriges are concerned a muslim women is not allowed to marry a non muslim.( a person who doent agree to defination of islam i have written above)
      for a muslim man ,he is allowed to marry besides muslim females, christians and jews,but with agrement that children born will bi muslims only.
      rest no marrige allowed.
      and all those who do breach ALLAHs law they cant live a happy life.(My strong believe) in this world and beyond even.

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