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      I was searching the Quran for mention of Qabar Ka Azab but could not find any.
      Does anyone know where does it mention it.

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      In ahadeeth.

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      Its mentioned in the Quran but not with the name, I cant remember the ayat right now. Also its proven from the Hadees of Prophet s.a.w and from the Ijma of Ummat.

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      I wonder why Allah would not mention something this important in Quran??

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      Evidences from the Qur'an

      1) Allah Most High says regarding the punishment for Pharaoh and his people:

      “In front of the fire they will be brought morning and evening. And (the sentence will be) on the day that judgment will be established (it will be ordered) cast you the people of Pharaoh in the severest penalty”
      (Surah al-Mu’min, 46).

      The famous scholar, Imam Fakhruddin al-Razi (Allah have mercy on him), in his renowned exegesis Tafsir al-Kabir, commentating on this verse says:
      “Our scholars have substantiated the punishment in the grave with this verse of the Holy Qur’an. They say: “The verse indicates that fire will be brought to them morning and evening and this does not refer to the day of judgment as Allah says: “And on the day judgment will be established, cast you the people of Pharaoh in the severest penalty” (i.e. it is referring to a time that is before the day of judgment, m). It also does not refer to this world, as bringing them to the fire did not occur in this world. Therefore, it becomes evident that this happened after their death and will happen before the Day of Judgment, thus it proves the establishment of the punishment in the grave. When it is established and proved for Pharaoh’s people it will also be established for others, as there is no reason of distinction” (Tafsir al-Kabir).
      Another great Tafsir scholar, Imam Ibn Kathir (Allah have mercy on him) says:
      “This verse is a fundamental evidence for the Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah in establishing the punishment of the grave” (Ibn Kathir, Tafsir al-Qur’an al-Adhim, 4/84).

      Hafidh Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) reports a narration in the explanation of this verse in his monumental commentary of Imam al-Bukhari’s Sahih, Fath al-Bari:
      “Shurahbil narrates from Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud (Allah be pleased with him): “The souls of Pharaoh’s people will in the form of black birds. They are brought to the fire every morning and evening and shown their aboard” (See: Musannaf Abd al-Razzaq, Ibn Abi Hatim & Tafsir al-Mazhari).
      2) Allah Most High says:

      “If you could but see how the wicked (do fare) in the flood of confusion at death and the angels stretch forth their hands (saying): “Yield up your souls. This day shall you receive your reward, a punishment of shame” (Surah al-An’am, 93).

      Ibn Hajar (Allah have mercy on him) quotes Tabrani narrating from Sayyiduna Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him):
      “This will occur at the time of death. And the meaning of “stretching forth their hands” is smiting their faces and backs”

      3) Allah Most High says:
      “If you could see when the angels take the souls of the unbelievers (at death), (how) they smite their faces and their backs (saying): “Taste the penalty of the blazing fire” (Surah al-Anfal, 50).
      The above two verses indicate that the punishment will commence at the time of death, which in effect is the punishment of the grave.

      4) Allah Most High says regarding the people of Sayyiduna Nuh (Peace be upon him):

      “Because of their sins they were drowned (in the flood) and were made to enter the fire (of punishment), and they found in lieu of Allah none to help” (Surah Nuh, 250).
      This verse indicates that the people of Nuh were entered into the fire directly after drowning.

      5) Allah Most High says:

      “Twice shall we punish them, and thereafter shall they be sent to a grievous penalty” (Surah al-Tawba, 101).

      Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) states in his Fath al-Bari:
      “Tabarani narrates from Sayyiduna Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) that he said: “Once on Friday the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) gave a sermon……and then he said: “Allah has disgraced the hypocrites in the world and that is the first punishment and the second punishment will be in the grave” (Fath al-Bari, 3/18).
      There are many other evidences in the Qur’an that prove the punishment of the grave, which can not obviously be cover here. One may look at the following verses with the relevant commentaries: 14/27, 20/124, 32/21, 89/27, 102/1-2, and many other verses.

      Sunnipath.

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      One more thing to add that when you know you are dying and you ask forgiveness. There is no forgiveness for that. Just like in the day of judgement's sign in which people will find out that the day of judgement is coming then their forgiveness won't be accepted. Jazakallah Khair!

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      Quote Originally Posted by HIMTI
      I wonder why Allah would not mention something this important in Quran??
      I expected you already knew the answer, now tell me what more you want,

      1) You then ignore, qabar ka azab, well ignore it Allaah is mentioned in the Quran about death, right does it mention clearly what happens in the Grave no way right, you and I agree with this.

      2) Allaah is mentioned about salah in the Quran is it mentioned in the Quran how to perform prayers, no way right of course you and I agree on this too.

      3) Allaah is mentioned in the Quran about Hajj, does it mention the way Hajj should be performed, again no way, and again you and I agree to this.

      Now the Question lies point 2 and 3 both are important pillars of Islam, and answer is ofcourse yes, n ow you answer this very question to me "I wonder why Allaah would not mention something this important in the Quran"

      PS Here, please dont land up saying differnt people have different ways of prayer my question is simple I hope you can answe and you get my drift.

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      Quote Originally Posted by khanbabax
      Evidences from the Qur'an

      1) Allah Most High says regarding the punishment for Pharaoh and his people:

      “In front of the fire they will be brought morning and evening. And (the sentence will be) on the day that judgment will be established (it will be ordered) cast you the people of Pharaoh in the severest penalty”
      (Surah al-Mu’min, 46).

      The famous scholar, Imam Fakhruddin al-Razi (Allah have mercy on him), in his renowned exegesis Tafsir al-Kabir, commentating on this verse says:
      “Our scholars have substantiated the punishment in the grave with this verse of the Holy Qur’an. They say: “The verse indicates that fire will be brought to them morning and evening and this does not refer to the day of judgment as Allah says: “And on the day judgment will be established, cast you the people of Pharaoh in the severest penalty” (i.e. it is referring to a time that is before the day of judgment, m). It also does not refer to this world, as bringing them to the fire did not occur in this world. Therefore, it becomes evident that this happened after their death and will happen before the Day of Judgment, thus it proves the establishment of the punishment in the grave. When it is established and proved for Pharaoh’s people it will also be established for others, as there is no reason of distinction” (Tafsir al-Kabir).
      Another great Tafsir scholar, Imam Ibn Kathir (Allah have mercy on him) says:
      “This verse is a fundamental evidence for the Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah in establishing the punishment of the grave” (Ibn Kathir, Tafsir al-Qur’an al-Adhim, 4/84).


      Hafidh Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) reports a narration in the explanation of this verse in his monumental commentary of Imam al-Bukhari’s Sahih, Fath al-Bari:
      “Shurahbil narrates from Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud (Allah be pleased with him): “The souls of Pharaoh’s people will in the form of black birds. They are brought to the fire every morning and evening and shown their aboard” (See: Musannaf Abd al-Razzaq, Ibn Abi Hatim & Tafsir al-Mazhari).
      2) Allah Most High says:

      “If you could but see how the wicked (do fare) in the flood of confusion at death and the angels stretch forth their hands (saying): “Yield up your souls. This day shall you receive your reward, a punishment of shame” (Surah al-An’am, 93).

      Ibn Hajar (Allah have mercy on him) quotes Tabrani narrating from Sayyiduna Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him):
      “This will occur at the time of death. And the meaning of “stretching forth their hands” is smiting their faces and backs”

      3) Allah Most High says:
      “If you could see when the angels take the souls of the unbelievers (at death), (how) they smite their faces and their backs (saying): “Taste the penalty of the blazing fire” (Surah al-Anfal, 50).
      The above two verses indicate that the punishment will commence at the time of death, which in effect is the punishment of the grave.

      4) Allah Most High says regarding the people of Sayyiduna Nuh (Peace be upon him):

      “Because of their sins they were drowned (in the flood) and were made to enter the fire (of punishment), and they found in lieu of Allah none to help” (Surah Nuh, 250).
      This verse indicates that the people of Nuh were entered into the fire directly after drowning.

      5) Allah Most High says:

      “Twice shall we punish them, and thereafter shall they be sent to a grievous penalty” (Surah al-Tawba, 101).

      Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) states in his Fath al-Bari:
      “Tabarani narrates from Sayyiduna Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) that he said: “Once on Friday the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) gave a sermon……and then he said: “Allah has disgraced the hypocrites in the world and that is the first punishment and the second punishment will be in the grave” (Fath al-Bari, 3/18).
      There are many other evidences in the Qur’an that prove the punishment of the grave, which can not obviously be cover here. One may look at the following verses with the relevant commentaries: 14/27, 20/124, 32/21, 89/27, 102/1-2, and many other verses.

      Sunnipath.
      Good one brother, t hanks for the info. And its a slam dunk for someone who ignore the QABAR KA AZAB

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      [quote=SlaveofAllaah]I expected you already knew the answer, now tell me what more you want,

      1) You then ignore, qabar ka azab, well ignore it Allaah is mentioned in the Quran about death, right does it mention clearly what happens in the Grave no way right, you and I agree with this.
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      Nice to read your response. I dont deny qabar ka azab but i have some questions about it.Here are my thoughts and please keep an open mind about them. Dont go all crazy on me.
      I live in Canada and the courts here work in a way that you are charged with something and then the ruling is given and then you are punished.
      I consider Qayamat the same way. We will go infrot of Allah, He will tell us the charges and then give his verdict and we will be punished or send us to heaven.

      Now qabar aka azab sounds like Pakistan police. they will grab you then start beating you up. after some time you wil be charged with a crime and then presented infrom of a court.

      Now as soon as i die, i will be tourtued and beaten but i dont know what for.I may have done some good deeds in my life time but i will still be beaten.

      Now i found that scary stuff and as you said in your post the mention of this is sort of hidden in Quran.

      So i am not denying it but i am not clear

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      Qabar ka azaab is not like Pakistani police, angels only follow the order of Allah and they will punish only by the order of Allah. Some people will less sin will only be punished in the grave so they wont get any punishment after that in hell.

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      [quote=HIMTI]
      Quote Originally Posted by SlaveofAllaah
      I expected you already knew the answer, now tell me what more you want,

      1) You then ignore, qabar ka azab, well ignore it Allaah is mentioned in the Quran about death, right does it mention clearly what happens in the Grave no way right, you and I agree with this.
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      Nice to read your response. I dont deny qabar ka azab but i have some questions about it.Here are my thoughts and please keep an open mind about them. Dont go all crazy on me.
      I live in Canada and the courts here work in a way that you are charged with something and then the ruling is given and then you are punished.
      I consider Qayamat the same way. We will go infrot of Allah, He will tell us the charges and then give his verdict and we will be punished or send us to heaven.

      Now qabar aka azab sounds like Pakistan police. they will grab you then start beating you up. after some time you wil be charged with a crime and then presented infrom of a court.

      Now as soon as i die, i will be tourtued and beaten but i dont know what for.I may have done some good deeds in my life time but i will still be beaten.

      Now i found that scary stuff and as you said in your post the mention of this is sort of hidden in Quran.

      So i am not denying it but i am not clear
      Brother, the two points mentioned above always confuse me too. Well i have read an article by Mutawaly al Sharawi a wellknown writer, its Life after death.

      Please go to www.islambasics.com and find for the author in S and then its a good 60 page one reat it, he is an excellent author and with sound reasoning.

      With the about, i have read it but forgotten, since i dont wont to base my verdicts on half baked knowledge i refrain from it.

      But the things you have mentioned are true, but we tend to forget. Life and death both are created. With death the choice we had in life is annulled and to elaborate i feel beating of angels is much better than hell which is mentioned in the Quran.
      I still remember this ayat the bowels will be into pieces, then they are worst thsi scares me more. I feel its better to follow the Quran as the azaab in the Quran is more worst, but if you have understood the hadith well and good.

      But better than being confused. Well, if you any interesting articles please do pm me on this topic.

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      ^ I would recommend USR, Armughal, Lajawab any of the three can throw some light on this topic. As brother i feel these are the best 3 around here and may Allaah refuge them and increase them in there knowledge.

      I hope this is just as an compliment and not exagerration and Allaah knows the best.

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      How about the following Ayaat which is more direct hinting towards 'no qabar ka azab' and time to the day of the resurrection to pass like a moment, then the ones indirect ones quoted above in favor of the qabor ka azab.

      To my understanding, we can easily believe in sayings that are in agreement with Quran rather than the other way.

      Provided that the soul of the disbelievers will be taken out the harsh way by the Angles, the qbar ka zab is still a question.

      Please correct me if my analysis is wrong.
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      (30:55) And on the day when the Hour riseth the guilty will vow that they did tarry but an hour - thus were they ever deceived.
      (30:56) But those to whom knowledge and faith are given will say: The truth is, ye have tarried, by Allah's decree, until the Day of Resurrection. This is the Day of Resurrection, but ye used not to know.
      An hour is Saat (or a moment).

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      isn't it better that we do good deeds n obey the ahkamaat rather than to read kabar ka azaab???
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      Quote Originally Posted by helpison View Post
      How about the following Ayaat which is more direct hinting towards 'no qabar ka azab' and time to the day of the resurrection to pass like a moment, then the ones indirect ones quoted above in favor of the qabor ka azab.

      To my understanding, we can easily believe in sayings that are in agreement with Quran rather than the other way.

      Provided that the soul of the disbelievers will be taken out the harsh way by the Angles, the qbar ka zab is still a question.

      Please correct me if my analysis is wrong.
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      (30:55) And on the day when the Hour riseth the guilty will vow that they did tarry but an hour - thus were they ever deceived.
      (30:56) But those to whom knowledge and faith are given will say: The truth is, ye have tarried, by Allah's decree, until the Day of Resurrection. This is the Day of Resurrection, but ye used not to know.
      An hour is Saat (or a moment).
      Peace helpison,

      The thread was created in 2007 and many of poster left GS for good. If you would like to add some details in this regard, then I suggest you to open a new thread.

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      Quote Originally Posted by helpison View Post
      How about the following Ayaat which is more direct hinting towards 'no qabar ka azab' and time to the day of the resurrection to pass like a moment, then the ones indirect ones quoted above in favor of the qabor ka azab.

      To my understanding, we can easily believe in sayings that are in agreement with Quran rather than the other way.

      Provided that the soul of the disbelievers will be taken out the harsh way by the Angles, the qbar ka zab is still a question.

      Please correct me if my analysis is wrong.
      Pickthall
      (30:55) And on the day when the Hour riseth the guilty will vow that they did tarry but an hour - thus were they ever deceived.
      (30:56) But those to whom knowledge and faith are given will say: The truth is, ye have tarried, by Allah's decree, until the Day of Resurrection. This is the Day of Resurrection, but ye used not to know.
      An hour is Saat (or a moment).
      Please see below quoted reply

      Quote Originally Posted by psyah

      Peace Helpison,

      The answer to the question is quite straightforward ... If we imagine a bad dream that we once had ... it would seem during the dream that it lasted for ages, yet when we wake up from it we realise that it was for only a night. Yet our memory of the dream tells us something else.

      My point being that experience of time is dependent on different states of being. And when we move from one state to another the previous state feels like a dream and the time scales are skewed.

      When people wake from the qabar ... the time spent in the qabar will be as if was a dream that lasted a long time, but due to our being awoken in a state that appeared as though we were merely sleeping we would perceive it to be only a few hours of sleep that we were actually dead in the grave.

      When it talks in the Qur'an about the resurrection the question asked is based on this perception and it is answered accordingly ... it is not a question about the what is felt during the qabar state. And when we awake our state at the time seems to be the reality and everything else seems like a dream.

      Qabar state - people will be tested of their iman and in the Afterlife state - people will be tested of their amal.
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