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      Quote Originally Posted by hanibal View Post
      U r still a kaka, when u will grow up then i'll talk to u..
      sarcasm/ taunt or you serious?
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      Quote Originally Posted by hanibal View Post
      That was the basis of my research, There so many common grounds where Hindu religion can be associated with Ibrahim-Fatih...

      the problem iam facing is lots of informtion is not available on open fourms, if it is then it is in Sansikrat, few parts of which is translated but i have no source to check the authenticity of these sources...
      Even if you find hindu friends its not easy to make them talk. Specially educated ones.
      But you could use GS, hindus here are very comfortable. And they don't mind sharing information. (which we appreciate)
      But yeah you are right its very smiler to other ibrahim-faiths.
      its like word of God + indian element = hinduisam
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      Asifk88- according to one hadith Hazoor PBUH ask muslim to keep themselves save from Dajjal (especially women).

      now it is obvious that dajjal can only emerge until there is a system exist that supports him. we are living in this world where every thing is connected so we can save ourselves from dajjal but how is it possible to save ourselves and not get affected/influence from the system, living in that system?

      =other info i heard from different source.

      -he gonna rule for 40 days. first day gonna be equal to one year, second one month, third one week and rest of them will be like normal days.

      - he gonna have mighty powers. he may give life to dead people (but only for once). he gonna pick a momin and ask him to consider him his creator, he gonna refuse to do so. then dajjal gonna kill his parents and ask him again to consider him his god, but he will refuse to. but then dajjal gonna bring his parents back to life. and that momin gonna believe him. (and gonna be kafir)

      dajjal then gonna pick another momin. and gonna repeat the same but that momin wont gonna believe him so dajjal once again gonna kill his parents. and ask the momin but that momin refuse to believe him and dajjal gonna try to bring his parent back to life, but this time he will fails to do so.

      key point is dajjal cant bring back some one to life more than once.

      - he gonna be kana (not one eye, but only one functioning eye)

      - he gonna appear when there wont be any greenery left in yasrab (Medina)

      - i think "kufr" gonna be written on his forehead. i believe that it means attractions. so people learn to lower your gaze.

      ps. i might be wrong in the info i provide. May ALLAH SWT forgive me for that.
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      Quote Originally Posted by knockout_artist View Post
      Even if you find hindu friends its not easy to make them talk. Specially educated ones.
      But you could use GS, hindus here are very comfortable. And they don't mind sharing information. (which we appreciate)
      But yeah you are right its very smiler to other ibrahim-faiths.
      its like word of God + indian element = hinduisam
      http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/

      here is the bhagavad ghita in various languages, freely translated

      enjoy

      its a wonderful teaching

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      Quote Originally Posted by zobia View Post
      Asifk88- according to one hadith Hazoor PBUH ask muslim to keep themselves save from Dajjal (especially women).

      now it is obvious that dajjal can only emerge until there is a system exist that supports him. we are living in this world where every thing is connected so we can save ourselves from dajjal but how is it possible to save ourselves and not get affected/influence from the system, living in that system?

      =other info i heard from different source.

      -he gonna rule for 40 days. first day gonna be equal to one year, second one month, third one week and rest of them will be like normal days.

      - he gonna have mighty powers. he may give life to dead people (but only for once). he gonna pick a momin and ask him to consider him his creator, he gonna refuse to do so. then dajjal gonna kill his parents and ask him again to consider him his god, but he will refuse to. but then dajjal gonna bring his parents back to life. and that momin gonna believe him. (and gonna be kafir)

      dajjal then gonna pick another momin. and gonna repeat the same but that momin wont gonna believe him so dajjal once again gonna kill his parents. and ask the momin but that momin refuse to believe him and dajjal gonna try to bring his parent back to life, but this time he will fails to do so.

      key point is dajjal cant bring back some one to life more than once.

      - he gonna be kana (not one eye, but only one functioning eye)

      - he gonna appear when there wont be any greenery left in yasrab (Medina)

      - i think "kufr" gonna be written on his forehead. i believe that it means attractions. so people learn to lower your gaze.

      ps. i might be wrong in the info i provide. May ALLAH SWT forgive me for that.
      In a lengthy Hadith narrated by Abu Saeed (R.A.), Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) is reported to have said: "Dajjal will come but it will be prohibited and impossible for him to enter Madina. He will set up camp in a barren land outside Madina. One person who will be the best of persons will confront him by saying: "I bear witness that you are the very Dajjal about whom Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) has informed us."
      Dajjal will say to his followers, "If I kill this person and then revive him, you people will still doubt me?"
      They will reply, "No."
      He will then kill this person, (according to another narration he will split this person in two) and thereafter revive him. This person will say, "I am totally convinced more than ever before that you definitely are Dajjal."
      Dajjal will attempt to kill this person again but his efforts will now be in vain.
      ] (According to a hadith, after this incident, Dajjal will not be able to harm anyone.)


      No offence Zobia but it is always better to check the references of ahadith before posting and post the references if you can.

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      few days ago someone forward me a mail..and it was abt dajjal..so i am just gonna copy paste it here..i dont know if its true or not.

      [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2]Dear brethren and sisters, I draw your your attention to something very Important. We are living at the end of times. we are already experiencing the minor signs of judgement day that preceed the appearance of the Major signs. Once these minor signs finish--know that 95% of these signs have already come to pass-- we will be encountering the Major signs immediately.[/FONT][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]One of these first signs amongst the Major ones is appearance of the Jewish Anti Christ or the Masih ad-Dajjal. The affliction of this Jewish Messiah is so great that none from the times of Prophet Adam till the day of resurrection have or will create and spread that much affliction. His affliction will be so dangerous and so harmful that there is no Prophet of God who did not warn his ummah about the coming of this person. the Dajjal will be able to deceive the very elect, the very pious, the one who thinks he has faith in his/her heart. this generation is very very close to meet the Dajjal. Why? Because there are two specific signs that will appear in Madina as reported by our Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam), which will mark that the time for the appearance of Dajjal, he will appear or be born in the midnight. And these two Signs have already appeared!!!!!![/FONT][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma] Here we provide to you the two specific traditions: Narrated Abdullah ibn Shafeeq who reported from Muhjin ibn Adraa who reported that the[/FONT][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]Prophet(saw) said, 'The End/finish/khalaas day, and What do you know what the khalaas days is--the prophet repeats the same statement 3 times.Some one asked him, 'what is the day of Khalaas?'. The Prophet then answered, 'The Dajjal will come and will climb and will see Madina and then he will say to his companions, 'Do you see that White Palace?That is the Mosque of Ahmad--another name of Prophet Muhammad--', Afterwards the Dajjal will come to Madina but will find that by its each entrance there is an armed angel ( who would not allow him entry)......afterwards Madina will shake 3 times and there will not remain a hypocrite male or female nor will there remain a fasiq male or female who would not go out to the Dajjal (to join him), and that is the day of khalaas.(An authentic tradition reported with a sahih isnad reported by Sheikh Mustafa Adwi in his work Al-Fitan wal Malaahim wa Asraatus S'aa) source:[/FONT][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2]http://www.raddadi.com/madinah/madinah.htm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2] During the time of the prophet the Masjidun Nabawi or the Mosque of Ahmad was very simple as it was built of mud bricks and had date leaves as its covering for the roof. It was just recently in our era that the Mosque of Prophet was expanded and was given a very grand and beautiful structure. Anyone who has travelled to Madina in recent times will confirm that upon reaching the vacinities of this holy city, the Mosque of the Prophet appears as a pearl or as a palace amongst other building from a far. Muslims take this as an awakening token, Wake and think seriously, the other sign the prophet fortold regarding the closeness of Dajjal's appearance is that Madina at that time--at the time of Dajjal's appearance --will have 7 main entrances:[/FONT][/SIZE]


      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]The Prophet said, 'The terror caused by Al-Masih Ad-Dajjal will not enter Medina and at that time Medina will have seven gates and there will be two angels at each gate (guarding them).(Sahih Bukhari: Book of afflictions, Volume 9, Book 88, Number 240) Just look at the recent Map of Madinah city, if you find one, and you will see that there are 7 main entrances today leading to the city. One road coming from Jeddah, the other coming from Makkah, another coming from Rabigh, one from the airport, another from Tabouk, and two from surrounding areas. Muslims get up, Know the Jews better, Avoid them, Be prepared to face them intellectually, politically and economically wise. Please memorize the 10 first verse of surah kahf as well as the last 10 verse. Doing such protects you from the affliction of Dajjal as the Prophet said. Always recite this Du'a or supplication in prayer when your are finishing after saying tashahud:[/FONT][/SIZE]


      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]Allahuma inni Aoudu Bikka Min Adabil Qabr, Wa Min Azabi Jahanum, Wa Min Fitnatil Mahyaie wal Mamat wa mein fitnatil Masih ad Dajjal According to the saying of the Prophet reciting this in prayer will protect one from the affliction of Dajjal.[/FONT][/SIZE]


      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]Such were our Salaaf-Such were their reliance on God: Qays ibn Abî Hâzim[/FONT][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma] says: I saw poison being brought to Khâlid ibn alWaleed, and it was asked, 'What is this?' The answer was given, 'It is poison.' He said, 'Bismillâh'[/FONT][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma] and drank it. I said, 'By Allâh, this is a miracle, this is true courage.'[/FONT][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]Abu's-Safar says: Khâlid ibn al waleed stayed in al-Hîrah at the house of the mother of the Banű Marâzibah. They said, 'Be on your guard against the Persians, lest they poison you.' He said, 'Bring it to me.' He took it and said, 'Bismillâh', and did him no harm.(Siyar Alaam an Nabula by[/FONT][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma] ad-Dhahabi)[/FONT][/SIZE]


      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]When Saad ibn Abi Waqas reached the banks of the flooded deep adDijla river he commanded his army to march. So his army began crossing on the surface the river as if it was crossing on land. The Persians did not believe their eyes and cried out'Diwan!!!, Diwan!!!By God we are not fighting humans but Jinns'They abandoned their capital Madaain to the victorious Islamic army.[/FONT][/SIZE]


      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma]Oh My Ummah rejoice and be patient for we are to be superpowers again! Imam Ahmad narrated that Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-Aas said, 'While we were around the Messenger of Allah) writing (the Hadith) the Messenger of Allah ,(sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam) was asked/ 'Which of these two cities will be conquered first, Constantinople or Romiyah (Rome)?' He said, 'The city of Heraclius will first be conquered.' He meant Constantinople.''[/FONT][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma] [Al-Hakim, Al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, p. 508. Also, see As-Silsilah as-Sahihah, vol. 1] History is a witness that Constantinople or Istanbul was conquered by Sultan Mehmet al Fatih al Uthmani. However Rome was never captured. This will happen in the near future when once again Muslims will have prestige and glory.[/FONT][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma] Allah's Apostle said,'The Earth was shown to me until i saw the east of the east and the west of the west[cant recall the order], and the authority of my ummah dominated all what I saw.'{Muslim-Ahmad] During the time of the prophet the east of the east was china and the west of the west was France.[/FONT][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma] history is a witness that the Islamic conquest did not reach that far.[/FONT][/SIZE]


      [SIZE=2][FONT=Tahoma][/SIZE][/FONT]
      [FONT=Tahoma]However this will happen in the near future inshallah when once again God honors Muslims. (Embedded image moved to file: pic05447.jpg)(Embedded image moved to file: pic21726.jpg)[/FONT]

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      I recieved an email about this. But I've heard, and a lot of others are saying this is fake. I agree with them. I mean this kid looks disabled with one eye and all, but the actual dajjal is yet not here, because the actual dajjal will be a strong person fit and healthy who will have the power to destroy everything. Theres still a lot more to come before the actual dajjal.
      I've also heard a dajjal is locked up in Iraq by Allah and I don't know about that :S

      Also one other thing will happen when dajjal will come is..all the good people will be able to see Kafar writen on his forehead but the bad people won't see that. Dajjal will say he's god and the bad people will believe he is a god. :S
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      Quote Originally Posted by hareem01 View Post
      In a lengthy Hadith narrated by Abu Saeed (R.A.), Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) is reported to have said: "Dajjal will come but it will be prohibited and impossible for him to enter Madina. He will set up camp in a barren land outside Madina. One person who will be the best of persons will confront him by saying: "I bear witness that you are the very Dajjal about whom Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) has informed us."
      Dajjal will say to his followers, "If I kill this person and then revive him, you people will still doubt me?"
      They will reply, "No."
      He will then kill this person, (according to another narration he will split this person in two) and thereafter revive him. This person will say, "I am totally convinced more than ever before that you definitely are Dajjal."
      Dajjal will attempt to kill this person again but his efforts will now be in vain.
      ] (According to a hadith, after this incident, Dajjal will not be able to harm anyone.)


      No offence Zobia but it is always better to check the references of ahadith before posting and post the references if you can.
      no offence taken.

      it was something i heard during juma prayers (7 years ago).

      what you wrote and what i wrote lill discrepancies do exist (though the conclusion is same) , but since we only know about dajjal through hadith-e-mubarik and internet is a huge resource (most of the time invalid info from anyone but muslim) so any material present on internet is not highly that reliable to me.

      but thanks api. i am sure you have more knowledge than me.
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      Here's a link for the video lecture about dajjal and New World Order I posted last year. It might be of your interest Zobia as you mentioned Dajjalic system in your earlier post.
      http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=257391 (Dajjal (Anti Christ) and the NWO - Shaykh Hamza Yusuf)

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      Quote Originally Posted by Asifk88 View Post
      dajal is the system of control and surveylance that is being pushed by the elite of our world.

      their symbol is usually ONE EYE

      they support one world government and they eventualyl want everyone to have an RFID chip, the RFID chip will eventually be able to function as a credit card, and also has the capability to signal the where-abouts of the chipped person

      " And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. "

      the beast is the christian name for the antichrist.

      " or the number of his name " each RFID has a unique number to indentify a person

      http://www.untoldmysteries.com/xmenu.../rfid-chip.jpg

      this is believe is the so called " mark of the beast "

      and soon this will be pushed for " security reasons "

      you may have noticed how they are already pushing for kids to recieve microchips for " their own safety "

      notice that many top companies, new agencies, intelligence agencies, have an eye in their logo

      What u said is right, i agree and this is one kind of Dajjal...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Asifk88 View Post
      http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/

      here is the bhagavad ghita in various languages, freely translated

      enjoy

      its a wonderful teaching

      Thankyou for the link, i really appreciate ur concern.

      but as per my limited knowledge about the Hindu religion, Geeta is just man return book basicall interoperating Vedas and other sacred verses for the man from God, through various messengers and Holy Men. Geeta was return to complie all of them togegher.. (Please do correct me if iam wrong and tell me from where the Geeta came, is it the source of Vedas or driven by Vedas?)
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      Quote Originally Posted by hareem01 View Post
      Here's a link for the video lecture about dajjal and New World Order I posted last year. It might be of your interest Zobia as you mentioned Dajjalic system in your earlier post.
      http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=257391 (Dajjal (Anti Christ) and the NWO - Shaykh Hamza Yusuf)
      thanks api i definitely gonna watch these videos

      ps. that thread discussion was more about hamza yousuf and sufism than on dajjal
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      Quote Originally Posted by zobia View Post
      thanks api i definitely gonna watch these videos

      ps. that thread discussion was more about hamza yousuf and sufism than on dajjal
      you're welcome.

      about that thread....yeah it just turned out to be that way.

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      with dajjal they mean materialism...and if we look around we are worshipping materialism, we worship money, clothes, models, sport clubs, alcohol, ganja...

      what the hell is a antichrist and what has the christian religion to do with dajjal?
      Dajjal bhi ik Monster hai na? Greater than Sauron...

      Sometimes, when I read topics about Dajjal here @GS I feel like living in Middle-Earth...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Numb View Post
      with dajjal they mean materialism...and if we look around we are worshipping materialism, we worship money, clothes, models, sport clubs, alcohol, ganja...

      what the hell is a antichrist and what has the christian religion to do with dajjal?
      Dajjal bhi ik Monster hai na? Greater than Sauron...

      Sometimes, when I read topics about Dajjal here @GS I feel like living in Middle-Earth...


      thanks for the detail description of materialism
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      Quote Originally Posted by hareem01 View Post
      In a lengthy Hadith narrated by Abu Saeed (R.A.), Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) is reported to have said: "Dajjal will come but it will be prohibited and impossible for him to enter Madina. He will set up camp in a barren land outside Madina. One person who will be the best of persons will confront him by saying: "I bear witness that you are the very Dajjal about whom Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) has informed us."
      Dajjal will say to his followers, "If I kill this person and then revive him, you people will still doubt me?"
      They will reply, "No."
      He will then kill this person, (according to another narration he will split this person in two) and thereafter revive him. This person will say, "I am totally convinced more than ever before that you definitely are Dajjal."
      Dajjal will attempt to kill this person again but his efforts will now be in vain.
      ] (According to a hadith, after this incident, Dajjal will not be able to harm anyone.)


      No offence Zobia but it is always better to check the references of ahadith before posting and post the references if you can.
      Thats exactly as what I heard the hadeeth.

      Also to be saved by the fitna of dajjal there is a hadeeth that one should read the opening 10 of Surah Kahf on Friday plus there is a dua which can be recited in the last rakah of your namaz (2 or 4) after the tashahhud.
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      Quote Originally Posted by zobia View Post


      thanks for the detail description of materialism

      jis insaan ke andarr saadgi naheen, wo dajjal ko worship kar ra hota hai...
      you may think it's funny, but have you thought above the stories
      told about Dajjal...

      He is chained on a Island...Same like Sauron who is chained in the Ring...Who is Frodo now? Who's gonna save us?
      Gollum is the devil...wo bhi to pehle insaan thaa, lekin uski desire usko maardiya...satan bhi to frishta ta pehle, uski desire ne mardiya usko...Middle-Earth fits in perfectly...

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