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      few years back one of my teacher who were connected to the AKDN told me that there is a great chances that Her Higness Zahra Agha khan (eldest child) wud be the successor of prince karim agha khan.




      Princess Zahra Aga Khan - Pre-wedding Ball
      London, June 12, 1997


      reason being that she is very competent and actively supervising the various department of AKDN, AKFED and other organs of agha khan empire. on the other hand the sons of agha khan (Rahim and Hussain) are neither that competent nor that actively involve in the affairs of AKFED.

      so it is being seriously discussed in the high circle of nazari community to assess the possibilty of nominating a female as imam. if it happens it wud be for the first time in the history of nazari's that a female becomes an imam.

      wud neone here like to comment on the veracity of this proposition
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      only male descendants can become imams of the nizari (aga khani) community.. being active in worldly matters has nothing to do with being a spiritul leader.. your post said " it is being seriously discussed in the high circle of nazari community"... there's no such thing as "high circle of nizari community" only present imam has the right to choose the next imam.. PERIOD...

      n by the way, i've answered it in the ismaili/aga khani thread that only present imam can choose the next imam so why this whole new thread??
      Last edited by a-town boy; Dec 11th, 2009 at 07:16 PM.

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      I've seen some pics of the older Imams and their families and the ladies wore hijab but how come the present princesses don't?
      Last edited by Nosherwan; Dec 12th, 2009 at 04:26 PM.
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      I think I read somewhere that their next Imam is likely to be Prince Ali Muhammed, the youngest child of their present Imam.

      What are Ismaili views on...?

      1) Homosexuality

      2) Pre-Marital sex

      3) Alcohol

      4) Gambling

      5) Islmaili girls marrying Christian boys

      6) Marriages with Sunnis and 12er-Shiahs
      Last edited by Nosherwan; Dec 12th, 2009 at 04:30 PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Nosherwan View Post
      I think I read somewhere that their next Imam is likely to be Prince Ali Muhammed, the youngest child of their present Imam.

      What are Ismaili views on...?

      1) Homosexuality

      2) Pre-Marital sex

      3) Alcohol

      4) Gambling

      5) Islmaili girls marrying Christian boys

      6) Marriages with Sunnis and 12er-Shiahs

      1) same as other muslims. not allowed

      2) same as other muslims. not allowed

      3) same as other muslims. not allowed

      4) same as other muslims. not allowed

      5) i'm not sure coz imam's daughter married a christian man..it was some doctor.. but her children are muslims so i guess it's fine.

      6) allowed. i'm not sure if you guys are allowed to marry ismailis..

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nosherwan View Post
      I've seen some pics of the older Imams and their families and the ladies wore hijab but how come the present princesses don't?
      it's upto the imam.. he knows better... personally i'm fine wid it.. imam's whole family's acts are right and according to islam.. that's what matters to me.. don't know about other ismailis or u guys....

      BTW it would be better if u moved all these questions to the ismaili/aga khani thread.. i opened that thread for all questions regarding ismailis..thank you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by a-town boy View Post
      it's upto the imam.. he knows better... personally i'm fine wid it.. imam's whole family's acts are right and according to islam..

      lols ...........
      i can accept ur statement as true ............. if u define the word "islam" here. ...................lols

      coz karim character and actions do not give ne idea that he has nething to do wid quran and hadith. the maain source of shariah.
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      he shud be considered as a gud enterpreneur instead of imam, who is running his busniess empire purely on commercial basis on western management philosphy........ rather than based on quran and sunnah.

      new jubilee insurance and habib bank limited is the best example who is purely work on the basis of interest. allah has specifically mentioned about the hurmat of the interest.

      i think what he doing is like jews , they wud manovoure the sharaih just to gain worldly advantages and follow their nafs and allah cursed them in quran, for this. the same is the case of karim agha khan ......... may allah show him right .
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      Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_27 View Post
      he shud be considered as a gud enterpreneur instead of imam, who is running his busniess empire purely on commercial basis on western management philosphy........ rather than based on quran and sunnah.

      new jubilee insurance and habib bank limited is the best example who is purely work on the basis of interest. allah has specifically mentioned about the hurmat of the interest.

      i think what he doing is like jews , they wud manovoure the sharaih just to gain worldly advantages and follow their nafs and allah cursed them in quran, for this. the same is the case of karim agha khan ......... may allah show him right .


      May Allah Show You Right cuz Judging someone even generally and labeling him "rong" especially looking at just one aspect forgetting how much million he is giving away n just just look at the negatives which btw are half truth is what Our Allah asked us not to do...so again MAY ALLAH SHOW YOU RIGHT !

      when u point a finger at someone else there are 3 fingers pointing back at u!
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      If the first picture u posted is of Princess Zahra dancing with her HUSBAND
      than this is also Princess Zahra














      for one picture that u put up how is it that u ignorned all these pictures on google n to manipulate put up just that one picture where shes dancing with her husband..??


      u know what the problem is ppl cnt accept a "white skinned" to be a muslim leader cuz narrow minded people feel muslim moulvis n leaders should look like this
      by now atleast open ur minds and see that just to have a weatish color n long beard dosnt make u any saint its ur actions that make u sinner or a saint...when on the name of Islam people are killing innocent people n on the orther hand a man on the name of Islam is generously giving away everything to people who cannot afford anything...its u people who call him a non muslim. the lil shred of respect left in muslims is because of people like prince karim and his humanitarian works around the world otherwise the east being filled with resources we are still known to be the poorest n suffering in the world cuz of lack of unity between muslims.We are the ones who let a corrupt politician rule a muslim state and when he wins we distribute mithai after we all know how hes eating our country knowing all that we shut our mouth up but NO when a guy is building schools n universities we blame him to be a jew.Offcourse cast a blind eye to the fact that how many people has his banks,universities,schools have employed and how the standard of living has improved in places like Tajikistan, Gilgit etc AND STILL WE CANT SEE ALL THIS AND CONTINUE POINTING FINGERS...its not the west destroying us its we ourselves!

      one muslim telling other muslim leader than hes a jew..is this the teaching of Quran? to blame others Muslims of being non-muslims? Who the hell are u to judge! Akhraat seems pretty near as people like u have started showing up!
      Last edited by ShimmerV; Dec 13th, 2009 at 05:33 AM.
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      every thing is upto imam...his daughter marries a christian when muslim women are NOT allowed to marry non-muslims.....
      hijab wear or not ...upto imama

      where did quran and rasools teachings go????????????

      look at IMAM' daughter ...she has her eyebrows plucked which is cursed by Rasool Allah .....so it is haram. should'nt an imam's daughter (who considers themselves to be above others spiritually" ) know abt this sahi hadith.?????????

      imam????? excuse me. its a new religion not islam.
      what good is a grudge if you cannot hold onto it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by aramis View Post
      every thing is upto imam...his daughter marries a christian when muslim women are NOT allowed to marry non-muslims.....
      hijab wear or not ...upto imama

      where did quran and rasools teachings go????????????

      look at IMAM' daughter ...she has her eyebrows plucked which is cursed by Rasool Allah .....so it is haram. should'nt an imam's daughter (who considers themselves to be above others spiritually" ) know abt this sahi hadith.?????????

      imam????? excuse me. its a new religion not islam.


      btw its upto her who she marries dunt judge our cast based on who my imams daughter choses to marry otherwise if i start what moulvis are doing to this world there will be plenty to say about sunnis too..secondly everyone plunks there eyebrows even ur moulvis daughters...sab ignore kardetey ho all the good n u talk about plunking eyebrows????...this is all u got? eyebrows!?!

      Muslims will ruin each other due to lack of unity...cuz of ppl like u guys!

      i mewan cmon really which gurl in this world dosnt pluck eyebrows anymore ??? Prophet also said about cleanliness that u dint hear?

      u clearly sound like an extremist!!!!
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      aramis the Ismailis don't believe in the Sunni collections of Ahadeeth, even the 12er Shiahs do not believe in our Ahadeeth because they believe that our Sahaabah who narrated and their followers who compiled those Ahadeeth were hypocrites and crypto-Kafirs.

      So your argument that she is going against hadith is null and void because like other Shiahs they reject our Sunni version of Ahadeeth/Sunnah.
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      u clearly sound like an extremist!!!![/QUOTE]\

      more than that: nice judgement


      Well I was reading the thread of a town boy from first page and honestly I get some great information about Ismailies sect, I never knew it before, good calm way of answering the questions.. beyond what is the differences between out sects the way of giving information is cool... dont know why 2nd thread on same topic is started ?? and you both guys answering here too
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      Quote Originally Posted by CuteGurl View Post
      May Allah Show You Right cuz Judging someone even generally and labeling him "rong" especially looking at just one aspect forgetting how much million he is giving away n just just look at the negatives which btw are half truth is what Our Allah asked us not to do...so again MAY ALLAH SHOW YOU RIGHT !

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      Narrated `Umar bin Al−Khattab: People were (sometimes) judged by the revealing of a Divine Inspiration during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle but now there is no longer any more (new revelation). Now we judge you by the deeds you practice publicly, so we will trust and favor the one who does good deeds in front of us, and we will not call him to account about what he is really doing in secret, for Allah will judge him for that; but we will not trust or believe the one who presents to us with an evil deed even if he claims that his intentions were good.
      Book 48: Witness
      Sahih Bukhari

      this is the criteria. n in my personal opinion (that may be flawed) karim agha does not meet this criteria.


      Imam or ne other religious personality like peer of (naqhbandi, chisti….. etc.) tradition are supposed to provide guidance the guidance to their followers in the light of quran and hadith. Rather than to establish business empire and take part in horse racing/gambling.

      My father saw karim agha when he came to inauguration ceremony of the agha khan hospital. He did not shake hand wid ismaili’s over there. However he shook hand wid non ismaili including the president Muhammad Zia ul Haq (late). I don’t know whether its his permanent habit or not. Yesterday I was seeing his profile, he never married to the ismaili women (Christian women converted to nazari) like his son hasan did. And princess zahra married to a Christian, what kind of msg that whole family wants to deliver. Is this according to sunnat of prophet pbuh.
      Apart from he is imam or not but atleast he is ummate of prophet. How can he override his action?
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