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      AoA...i want to know can we ( male or female ) pray Namaz with short or half sleeves???

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      For women it's a straight no.

      For men it's makruh.

      "O Children of Adam! wear your beautiful apparel at every time and place of prayer: eat and drink: But waste not by excess, for Allah loveth not the wasters."

      Look at it this way, do we go to a wedding in our t-shirts? Do we go to an interview wearing t-shirt and not suits? When going to dawats even, do we not take care of our appearance? Then why when presenting ourselves before ALLAH, why do we shy away from this? Insh'Allah we should all try to dress with respect in all of our prayers.

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      hmmmmm....thanks for explaination...jazak ALLAH khair

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      Jazak'Allah khair to you as well. =)


      for reference purposes: http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/menwmdiff.htm

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      Wearing revealing and short clothes, and the limits of women’s ‘awrah in front of other women
      It is becoming common for some women to wear short and tight clothes which show off their charms and which may be sleeveless or show the chest or back, so that the woman is virtually naked. When we try to advise them, they say that they only wear these clothes in front of other women, and that the ‘awrah of a woman in front of other women is the area from the navel to the knee. What is the ruling of Islam, in your opinion, with evidence from the Qur’aan and Sunnah, on this matter and on wearing these kind of clothes in front of mahrams? May Allaah reward you with good on behalf of the Muslims, men and women, and make your reward great.


      Praise be to Allaah.
      In response to this it might be said that it is reported in a saheeh hadeeth that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
      “There are two types of the people of Hell whom I have not seen yet. People with whips like the tails of cattle, with which they strike the people, and women who are clothed yet naked, walking with an enticing gait. They will not enter Paradise nor even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance may be detected from such and such a distance.”
      The scholars interpret “clothed yet naked” as referring to women who wear tight clothes or light clothing that does not cover what is beneath it, or short clothes. Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) mentioned that what women wore inside their houses at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) covered everything from the heel of the foot up to the palm of the hand. All of this was covered when they were inside the house, and when they went out to the market, it was known that the women of the Sahaabah used to wear loose garments which would drag along the ground. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) allowed them to let it trail up to a cubit, but no more than that.
      With regards to the doubts that some women have, concerning the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Let no woman look at the ‘awrah of another woman and let no man look at the ‘awrah of another man; the ‘awrah of a woman in front of another woman is from the navel to the knee”, which they interpret as indicating that women may wear short clothes – the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not say that it is sufficient for women’s clothing to cover the area from the navel to the knee, so this cannot be used as evidence. What he did say was that no woman should look at the ‘awrah of another woman, so he forbade them to look, because the ‘awrah of the woman who is wearing loose clothing may sometimes be exposed when answering the call of nature or for some other reason, so the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade women to look at one another’s ‘awrahs.
      Because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that no man should look at the ‘awrah of another man, does this means that the Sahaabah wore izaars (waist wrappers) or trousers only between the navel and the knee? Does anyone think that women can go to meet other women wearing nothing but clothes that cover her from the navel to the knee? No one would say such a thing. That only happens among the kaafir women. The confusion that some women feel has no basis; what some women understand from this hadeeth is not correct. The meaning of the hadeeth is clear. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not say that women's clothing should cover only the area between the navel and the knee. Women have to fear Allaah and feel that sense of modesty which is part of the nature of women and which is part of faith, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Modesty is a branch of faith.” And it is said in the proverbial sense, “more shy than the virgin in her seclusion.” It was not even known among the women of the jaahiliyyah to cover only the area from the navel to the knee, such a thing was not known among either women or men; do these women want the Muslim women to be even worse in appearance than the women of the jaahiliyyah?
      In conclusion: the clothing is one thing and looking at the ‘awrah is another thing. With regard to clothing and what a woman wears in front of other women, it is prescribed for her to cover everything from the palm of the hand to the heel of the foot, but if a woman needs to pull up her dress in order to do some work etc., she may pull it up to her knees, and if she needs to roll up her sleeves to the upper arms she may do that too, if she only does it as much as is necessary. But if this is the way she usually dresses, then that is not allowed. The hadeeth does not indicate this under any circumstances at all, hence it addresses the one who is looking, not the one who is looked at. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not referring to how women should dress; all he was referring to was the ‘awrah. He did not say that women’s dress may cover only the area between the navel and the knee, as these women mistakenly think.
      With regard to mahrams, they may see as much as another woman may see, i.e., it is permissible for a woman to uncover in front of a mahram what she uncovers in front of other women, so she may uncover her head, neck, feet, hands, forearms, calves, etc, but she should not wear short clothes.


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      If you are praying in sanctity of your home and only your mahrams are present and na mahram will not barge in where you are praying then , why not ?
      Fools never disagree.

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      Namaz / prayer is in the realm of Haqooq-Allah swt,

      and thus,

      It is strictly between YOU and Allah swt.
      No man/woman can figure out if your prayers were accepted or not. Only Allah swt knows.


      So the opinons of men do not really matter when it comes to you offering your prayer to Allah swt.

      Remember Allah CREATED us. So He swt knows us inside out, naked or clothed, hungry or content, sleeping or awake.


      It really depends on YOU if you feel comfortable and relaxed to be in the presence of Allah in a given set of clothes.


      Just remember that the above discussion is specific to when you are saying prayers in the privacy of your HOME.

      If on the other hand you are in the mosque, then your attire has to follow general rules established and perhaps mostly understood in your community. Additionally when you are in a public place such as mosque, then your attire comes in the realm of "Haqooq Al Ibad", and thus subject to the general rule of modesty.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mirch View Post
      If you are praying in sanctity of your home and only your mahrams are present and na mahram will not barge in where you are praying then , why not ?
      yes i pray alone...but if u see some reply here u will find that we have to cover our self before go to front of ALLAH...even if we are alone or with our mohrams..

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      Quote Originally Posted by IloveIslam View Post
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      Wearing revealing and short clothes, and the limits of women’s ‘awrah in front of other women
      It is becoming common for some women to wear short and tight clothes which show off their charms and which may be sleeveless or show the chest or back, so that the woman is virtually naked. When we try to advise them, they say that they only wear these clothes in front of other women, and that the ‘awrah of a woman in front of other women is the area from the navel to the knee. What is the ruling of Islam, in your opinion, with evidence from the Qur’aan and Sunnah, on this matter and on wearing these kind of clothes in front of mahrams? May Allaah reward you with good on behalf of the Muslims, men and women, and make your reward great.


      Praise be to Allaah.
      In response to this it might be said that it is reported in a saheeh hadeeth that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
      “There are two types of the people of Hell whom I have not seen yet. People with whips like the tails of cattle, with which they strike the people, and women who are clothed yet naked, walking with an enticing gait. They will not enter Paradise nor even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance may be detected from such and such a distance.”
      The scholars interpret “clothed yet naked” as referring to women who wear tight clothes or light clothing that does not cover what is beneath it, or short clothes. Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) mentioned that what women wore inside their houses at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) covered everything from the heel of the foot up to the palm of the hand. All of this was covered when they were inside the house, and when they went out to the market, it was known that the women of the Sahaabah used to wear loose garments which would drag along the ground. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) allowed them to let it trail up to a cubit, but no more than that.
      With regards to the doubts that some women have, concerning the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Let no woman look at the ‘awrah of another woman and let no man look at the ‘awrah of another man; the ‘awrah of a woman in front of another woman is from the navel to the knee”, which they interpret as indicating that women may wear short clothes – the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not say that it is sufficient for women’s clothing to cover the area from the navel to the knee, so this cannot be used as evidence. What he did say was that no woman should look at the ‘awrah of another woman, so he forbade them to look, because the ‘awrah of the woman who is wearing loose clothing may sometimes be exposed when answering the call of nature or for some other reason, so the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade women to look at one another’s ‘awrahs.
      Because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that no man should look at the ‘awrah of another man, does this means that the Sahaabah wore izaars (waist wrappers) or trousers only between the navel and the knee? Does anyone think that women can go to meet other women wearing nothing but clothes that cover her from the navel to the knee? No one would say such a thing. That only happens among the kaafir women. The confusion that some women feel has no basis; what some women understand from this hadeeth is not correct. The meaning of the hadeeth is clear. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not say that women's clothing should cover only the area between the navel and the knee. Women have to fear Allaah and feel that sense of modesty which is part of the nature of women and which is part of faith, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Modesty is a branch of faith.” And it is said in the proverbial sense, “more shy than the virgin in her seclusion.” It was not even known among the women of the jaahiliyyah to cover only the area from the navel to the knee, such a thing was not known among either women or men; do these women want the Muslim women to be even worse in appearance than the women of the jaahiliyyah?
      In conclusion: the clothing is one thing and looking at the ‘awrah is another thing. With regard to clothing and what a woman wears in front of other women, it is prescribed for her to cover everything from the palm of the hand to the heel of the foot, but if a woman needs to pull up her dress in order to do some work etc., she may pull it up to her knees, and if she needs to roll up her sleeves to the upper arms she may do that too, if she only does it as much as is necessary. But if this is the way she usually dresses, then that is not allowed. The hadeeth does not indicate this under any circumstances at all, hence it addresses the one who is looking, not the one who is looked at. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not referring to how women should dress; all he was referring to was the ‘awrah. He did not say that women’s dress may cover only the area between the navel and the knee, as these women mistakenly think.
      With regard to mahrams, they may see as much as another woman may see, i.e., it is permissible for a woman to uncover in front of a mahram what she uncovers in front of other women, so she may uncover her head, neck, feet, hands, forearms, calves, etc, but she should not wear short clothes.

      Jazak ALLAH brother

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      Quote Originally Posted by burqaposhx View Post
      Namaz / prayer is in the realm of Haqooq-Allah swt,

      and thus,

      It is strictly between YOU and Allah swt.
      No man/woman can figure out if your prayers were accepted or not. Only Allah swt knows.


      So the opinons of men do not really matter when it comes to you offering your prayer to Allah swt.

      Remember Allah CREATED us. So He swt knows us inside out, naked or clothed, hungry or content, sleeping or awake.


      It really depends on YOU if you feel comfortable and relaxed to be in the presence of Allah in a given set of clothes.


      Just remember that the above discussion is specific to when you are saying prayers in the privacy of your HOME.

      If on the other hand you are in the mosque, then your attire has to follow general rules established and perhaps mostly understood in your community. Additionally when you are in a public place such as mosque, then your attire comes in the realm of "Haqooq Al Ibad", and thus subject to the general rule of modesty.
      Jazak ALLAH...

      the thing is if some times i pray n im wearing half sleeves i will start praying with this...even tho i have so many full sleeves cloths...

      i used to think the same way u have mention...but some days ago one lady told me that in Namaz women can only show her face,hands and feet..

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      It is strictly between YOU and Allah swt.
      No man/woman can figure out if your prayers were accepted or not. Only Allah swt knows.
      Yes U r right Allah knows whats in our hearts but still there r some conditons that must be fulfilled otherwise we r wasting our time. Did u ever considered to perform namaz without ablution(Wuzu)?? Thinking that Allah sees our hearts n namaz has no concern with it???



      I dont want to go for a long discussion but i just want u to clear ur concepts, U see every one has his own identity, U see doctor with over all, u see police has specific uniform, u see lawyers etc..... They never say we r policemen from our inner side so we will not put a uniform,

      So the same way each muslim girl n guy has a specific identity thats Sibghatul Allah(Colours given to us by Allah) so my kind request to all is to be coloured in colours of Allah n not the colours of non muslims n not impressed by the idea that we should only satisfy our inner.

      Its just my humble request, i dont want u to flare up,
      May Allah guide us to the right path n keep us on right path till last breathe

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      i think for women u're only allowed to show yr face, hands and feet. and for for men only parts tht can show are below elbow and knees but it better be the same as women except tht men wear a cap
      "Verily when He intends a thing, His Command is, Be, and it is. So glory to Him in Whose hands is the dominion of all things: and to Him will ye be all brought back"(36, 82-83)

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      Quote Originally Posted by IloveIslam View Post
      Yes U r right Allah knows whats in our hearts but still there r some conditons that must be fulfilled otherwise we r wasting our time. Did u ever considered to perform namaz without ablution(Wuzu)?? Thinking that Allah sees our hearts n namaz has no concern with it???



      I dont want to go for a long discussion but i just want u to clear ur concepts, U see every one has his own identity, U see doctor with over all, u see police has specific uniform, u see lawyers etc..... They never say we r policemen from our inner side so we will not put a uniform,

      So the same way each muslim girl n guy has a specific identity thats Sibghatul Allah(Colours given to us by Allah) so my kind request to all is to be coloured in colours of Allah n not the colours of non muslims n not impressed by the idea that we should only satisfy our inner.

      Its just my humble request, i dont want u to flare up,
      May Allah guide us to the right path n keep us on right path till last breathe
      The bottom line is that "if you are not in public place", you can do whatever you want to do. It is between you Allah.

      There is a standard practice for everything. For Prayers, the standard practice is that you should be clean (the prupose of wuzu or shower), and clean clothes. You should not be hungry, or rushed. otherwise the whole purpose of meditation is defeated.

      The length of sleeve etc. is all cultural and thus depends on which culture you were born in and how you feel about short vs. long sleeves.

      Therefore no one should give opinion to others. You want short sleeve then go ahead.

      On the other hand if you are in public place, then follow the rules of the local culture as to what is acceptable and what is not!

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      ^ Oh bhai, you're a clear case of "pick n chose". On one hand you call to follow deen and on the other hand you just smash all sunnats by calling them tribalist, too old, not in tune with "modern times"...

      Others have posted with evidence from ahadith, you have posted your own opinion. Bhai, opinions don't count in the court of Allah.

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      burqa...
      we are clearly told to stand up for prayer 'dressed in clean and decent clothing'
      remember no such thing was said/written that u're supposed to be dressed in decent clothing 'only while u are in public', atleast i havent come across such a thing.
      now all we have to do is think what is 'decent clothing' according to Islam. Simple as that!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kinzz View Post
      Jazak ALLAH...

      the thing is if some times i pray n im wearing half sleeves i will start praying with this......
      You are welcome!

      You are refering to your prayers in your own home! Correct?

      If that's case it is OK.



      Quote Originally Posted by Kinzz View Post
      ....
      i used to think the same way u have mention...but some days ago one lady told me that in Namaz women can only show her face,hands and feet..
      How did you she come to know about your clothing?
      Were you praying in the mosque?
      If so, follow the rules of the mosque.

      However if you happen to share with her, your clothing during your namaz at your home, then

      1. You should not have shared your details about your intimate presence in front of Allah swt.

      2. She has no business telling you about your connection and your style in front of Allah swt within the confines of your home.

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      ^have you read a proper reliable book/source where it says you can pray dressed anyhow while alone? does that mean praying naked is allowed?
      "Verily when He intends a thing, His Command is, Be, and it is. So glory to Him in Whose hands is the dominion of all things: and to Him will ye be all brought back"(36, 82-83)

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      Quote Originally Posted by sa-Nafooz View Post
      ..does that mean praying naked is allowed?
      Who in their right mind would want to?

      What kind of e$tupeed question is that?

      That poor girl is asking for a short sleeve thingy, and you jump and shout about praying without clothes. Nauzbillah!

      Get your mind out of wherever it is right now.

      Thank you.
      Last edited by burqaposhx; Apr 1st, 2010 at 04:52 PM.

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