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      Kyun Insaan ka wajood aya is dunya mein...

      kya farishtay uski ibadat kay liye kaafi nahi thay????????
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      Farishtay dont have their own will. They are ordered and carry orders out.

      Humans have will and thus humans have a choice of carrying out the orders.


      Read Iqbal...something like
      Dard e dil k wastay paida kiya insaan ko

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      korn dear mind mat karna but I really believe humay is tarha ke sawal nahi karna chahiye, balke aise sochna bhi nahi chahiye, esp the part "
      Quote Originally Posted by korn666 View Post
      kya farishtay uski ibadat kay liye kaafi nahi thay????????
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      but anyway to answer the thread's title

      agar mujhe sahi se yaad hai to Allah farmaata hai Qur'an main ke Usne humay Uski ibaadat karne ke liye paida kiya hai

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      Name_105,

      very good point

      Jub ap Quran parhtay ho aur uski tashreeh to bht say sawaal zehan mein atay haen aur ye achi baat hoti hai k hum bijaey koi do number molvi k paas jaen khudi thora homework ker kay jawabaat dhoondh laen...

      thats my point here!!!

      Its good to share POSITIVE information..... always
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      One: God gave man a mind (spirit), so that he could know God.
      Two: God gave man a heart (emotions), so that he could love God.
      Three: God gave man a will (freedom of choice), so that he could obey God.

      Just as God is the possessor of a mind, and a heart, and a will, so God placed in the soul of man a mind, a heart, and a will. Let us consider what this means.

      First, God gave man a mind capable of knowing God and thinking as God thinks. God created man with such a powerful mind, because He planned for man to have close fellowship with Himself. When we read about the life of the prophet of God, Abraham, we will see that he was called the friend of God. Abraham knew God personally and had a close relationship with Him. However, Abraham is not the only one who has been offered the privilege of being the friend of God. We too can be "friends of God." God wants us to have close fellowship with Him. That is why He placed in man's soul a mind (spirit) that can harmonize with the mind (spirit) of God.

      Perhaps we can clarify what we are saying with a question. What distinguishes a man from an animal? The mind. The mind and spirit of man is very different from the mind of an animal. Why is it that animals cannot understand this radio program? Because they do not have the same kind of mind that we have. Listening friends, why are you able to understand our words? Because you share the same kind of mind-a human mind. In a similar way, man's spirit is designed to harmonize (correspond, fellowship) with God's Spirit.

      Of course, in saying this, we must not think that our minds and the mind of God are equal in wisdom and knowledge. Never! The wisdom of God is deep, and His knowledge far surpasses the wisdom of man. What we need to understand is this: God has given to man a spirit that has the possibility of enjoying a meaningful relationship with the Living God. God does not want you to be like the animals who cannot know Him! An animal has a brain, but cannot think about God. An animal has a mouth, but it cannot thank God for the food that He provides for it each day. It has eyes, but it cannot study the Holy Scriptures. It has ears, but it cannot listen to the Word of God. However, man, whom God created in His image, can come to know the Lord God. Yes, you who are listening today, you can know God! You can have a wonderful relationship with your Creator, if you believe and receive the righteous way of salvation that He has established. We will be explaining God's way of salvation clearly in the coming lessons, but what we must understand today is that God has given man a spirit capable of knowing Him.

      God placed something else in the soul of man when He created him in His image. A heart. God gave man a heart so that he could love God. We are not talking about the heart that pumps blood, but about what you feel in your soul, your emotions, and your thoughts. We are talking about the very intentions of your heart. God gave the first man the capacity to feel the emotions that God Himself feels. God can love, hate, rejoice, and feel sorrow and compassion. Therefore God placed within the soul of man a heart capable of feeling emotions such as love and hate. God wants man to love what God loves and hate what God hates. God wants us to love Him with all our heart. That is why He created man in His own image, and gave him a heart.

      There is something else that God gave to man, whom He created in His own image. He placed in the soul of man a will. God permits every person to choose his own path. God Himself has authority to choose whether He will do something or not. Thus, God created man with the right and responsibility to make important choices for himself. God could have created man so that he would (automatically) do His will, and not have any choice in the matter. However, God gave to man a free will and the responsibility to choose for himself whether to obey God. God did not want to create a mere machine (robot). God did not create man in the image of the sun that rises every day, but has no choice in the matter. The sun fulfils the will of God every day "automatically." That is not how it is with man. Man is a special creation. God created us for Himself. God wants us to choose to love Him and worship Him. God has committed a great responsibility to man! Man must choose for himself whether to follow God or Satan, whether he will cherish the Word of God or despise it. God will not force anyone to believe His Word. He will never force us to love Him and obey Him. Love is not love if it is coerced. God allows each of us to choose for ourselves which path we will follow. But, in the end, God will judge everyone who rejects His kingdom, because God created man for Himself. That is what the Scriptures say.

      ~*~ Koi sawaal kare tau kya kahun ussay ... Bicharne wale sabab tau bata judai ka ... ~*~

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      We can try to find the answer in the Quran.
      So here is my humble attempt at it.
      2:31) And when thy Lord said to the angels: ‘I am about to place a vicegerent in the earth,’ they said: ‘Wilt Thou place therein such as will cause disorder in it, and shed blood? — and we glorify Thee with Thy praise and extol Thy holiness.’ He answered: ‘I know what you know not.’
      It seems that the creation of man is not only meant for "glorifying Allah with His praise and extol His holiness" that the angels do but for a different purpose. Also when angels said that humans will cause disorder and shed blood, Allah replied that He knows what they don't. So humans are vicegerent to Allah on earth and have the powers to decide whether to head north or south. and those humans who take the right path are even better than angels.

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      app ko kasay pata k insan ko Allah nay pada kiya?

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      Quote Originally Posted by AnumJamil View Post
      app ko kasay pata k insan ko Allah nay pada kiya?
      Really, what do you think ?

      ~*~ Koi sawaal kare tau kya kahun ussay ... Bicharne wale sabab tau bata judai ka ... ~*~

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      God created a big, beautiful world and he needed someone to destroy it. So God created humans.
      All I have in this world is my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one.

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      Humans are a product of evolution! which is a creation of God.

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      One of the greatest wonders of all times is LIFE, One of the greatest wonders of life is a brain-inteligence, the ablility to distinguish between right and wrong. This is where man kind is superior to other life forms including angels, there for ashraf-ul-mahlook.

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      Quote Originally Posted by AnumJamil View Post
      app ko kasay pata k insan ko Allah nay pada kiya?
      It is fairly simple. Ask scientists, after all the technological development, can they develop an amoeba (single cell creature) from scratch in a lab?
      Ask them what are the odds of having the conditions of the creation of basic life cell i.e., DNA without any intelligent maneuvering?
      and can you believe for a sec that an intricate building like empire state can be built just by chance. Life is far more complex. and how about an intelligent life form that can think, make decisions, and ask questions like yours?
      I was searching for artificial life or artificial dna. I was amazed to find many links, clicked on one and see what they said:

      A Step to Artificial Life: Manmade DNA Powers Cell

      Lauran Neergaard, AP Medical Writer

      Negatively stained transmission electron micrographs of aggregated M. mycoides. Scientists announced a bold step in the enduring quest to create artificial life. They've produced a living cell powered by manmade DNA. (AP Photo/J. Craig Venter Institute)

      Scientists have announced a bold step in the enduring quest to create artificial life. They've produced a living cell powered by manmade DNA. While such work can evoke images of Frankenstein-like scientific tinkering, it also is exciting hopes that it could eventually lead to new fuels, better ways to clean polluted water and faster vaccine production.

      Is it really an artificial life form?

      The inventors call it the world's first synthetic cell, although this initial step is more a re-creation of existing life — changing one simple type of bacterium into another — than a built-from-scratch kind.
      http://www.scientificcomputing.com/n...ll-052410.aspx

      So after so much toil and hard work and intelligence, what they were successful in
      changing one simple type of bacterium into another — than a built-from-scratch kind
      Do I need to say more?

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      Allah ki science bay misaal hai

      is liye Islam mein experiment ki ijazat nahi di gai

      Thats why i said "created" i did not say Paida keeya

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      Quote Originally Posted by korn666 View Post
      Allah ki science bay misaal hai
      Yaqeenan. isi liye mujhey yaqeen hai kay insaan zindagi create nahin kar sakta. yeh us kay bas say bahir ki baat hai. jitni koshish chahey kar lay. Neest say Hast karna sirf Allah ki zaat ka kaam hai.

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      @ amarbail's first post

      well i still think the question of "why" Allah created us is not answered, your post is more like the explaination of how has He made us differenet from His other creations like animals

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      exactly

      abhi tak jawaab waazaih anahi aya hai
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      Quote Originally Posted by Quran, Sura 51 Verse 56
      And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Amarbail View Post
      One: God gave man a mind (spirit), so that he could know God.
      Two: God gave man a heart (emotions), so that he could love God.
      Three: God gave man a will (freedom of choice), so that he could obey God.

      Just as God is the possessor of a mind, and a heart, and a will, so God placed in the soul of man a mind, a heart, and a will. Let us consider what this means.

      First, God gave man a mind capable of knowing God and thinking as God thinks. God created man with such a powerful mind, because He planned for man to have close fellowship with Himself. When we read about the life of the prophet of God, Abraham, we will see that he was called the friend of God. Abraham knew God personally and had a close relationship with Him. However, Abraham is not the only one who has been offered the privilege of being the friend of God. We too can be "friends of God." God wants us to have close fellowship with Him. That is why He placed in man's soul a mind (spirit) that can harmonize with the mind (spirit) of God.

      Perhaps we can clarify what we are saying with a question. What distinguishes a man from an animal? The mind. The mind and spirit of man is very different from the mind of an animal. Why is it that animals cannot understand this radio program? Because they do not have the same kind of mind that we have. Listening friends, why are you able to understand our words? Because you share the same kind of mind-a human mind. In a similar way, man's spirit is designed to harmonize (correspond, fellowship) with God's Spirit.

      Of course, in saying this, we must not think that our minds and the mind of God are equal in wisdom and knowledge. Never! The wisdom of God is deep, and His knowledge far surpasses the wisdom of man. What we need to understand is this: God has given to man a spirit that has the possibility of enjoying a meaningful relationship with the Living God. God does not want you to be like the animals who cannot know Him! An animal has a brain, but cannot think about God. An animal has a mouth, but it cannot thank God for the food that He provides for it each day. It has eyes, but it cannot study the Holy Scriptures. It has ears, but it cannot listen to the Word of God. However, man, whom God created in His image, can come to know the Lord God. Yes, you who are listening today, you can know God! You can have a wonderful relationship with your Creator, if you believe and receive the righteous way of salvation that He has established. We will be explaining God's way of salvation clearly in the coming lessons, but what we must understand today is that God has given man a spirit capable of knowing Him.

      God placed something else in the soul of man when He created him in His image. A heart. God gave man a heart so that he could love God. We are not talking about the heart that pumps blood, but about what you feel in your soul, your emotions, and your thoughts. We are talking about the very intentions of your heart. God gave the first man the capacity to feel the emotions that God Himself feels. God can love, hate, rejoice, and feel sorrow and compassion. Therefore God placed within the soul of man a heart capable of feeling emotions such as love and hate. God wants man to love what God loves and hate what God hates. God wants us to love Him with all our heart. That is why He created man in His own image, and gave him a heart.

      There is something else that God gave to man, whom He created in His own image. He placed in the soul of man a will. God permits every person to choose his own path. God Himself has authority to choose whether He will do something or not. Thus, God created man with the right and responsibility to make important choices for himself. God could have created man so that he would (automatically) do His will, and not have any choice in the matter. However, God gave to man a free will and the responsibility to choose for himself whether to obey God. God did not want to create a mere machine (robot). God did not create man in the image of the sun that rises every day, but has no choice in the matter. The sun fulfils the will of God every day "automatically." That is not how it is with man. Man is a special creation. God created us for Himself. God wants us to choose to love Him and worship Him. God has committed a great responsibility to man! Man must choose for himself whether to follow God or Satan, whether he will cherish the Word of God or despise it. God will not force anyone to believe His Word. He will never force us to love Him and obey Him. Love is not love if it is coerced. God allows each of us to choose for ourselves which path we will follow. But, in the end, God will judge everyone who rejects His kingdom, because God created man for Himself. That is what the Scriptures say.
      Wow, this makes God sound extremely narcissistic. I don't think you're doing justice to that being, here. And it makes NO sense. What does God need our prayers for? What does God need our love for? He created us to obey him, but why does God need us to obey him? God has nothing to lose if we don't obey him and nothing to gain even if we do. So why were humans created?

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