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      The 'Kalma Tayyaba' is based on two important beliefs (1) Touheed (2) Risalat. Meaning of touheed is "make one" or "unique" and its originaly taken from "wahdat" Although in belief terms we take it meaning as "La Ilaha Illallah" and its appeared 12 time in Qur'an. "La Ilaha Illa Ho" appeared 30 times in Qur'an and La Ilaha Illa Ana appeared 3 times. Moreover, "Ilahakum Ilaho Wahid" appeared 6 times.

      The word 'Touheed' is not used in Qur'an perhaps "wahid" and "Uhad" are used many times. "Ilaha" repeated 125 times in Qur'an. Touheed (La Ilaha Illalah) means to testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah.

      Meaning of the Risalat is "sending message" Risala mean Message and rasool mean Messenger (qasid). By testifying that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's Messenger, non-believer enter (embrace) in the circule of Islam.

      So here 'Touheed' is Almighty Allah SWT's Message which delievered to us by Prophets :AS: and believing of Prophets :AS: message's is like believing on the "Risalat" (Message) of Allah SWT! so Kalma Tayyaba or Shahadat is the basic belief. To understand more plz read hadiths below:

      According to the various Hadiths in Sahih Bukhari:

      Book Belief Hadit No. 7

      Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: Islam is based on (the following) five (principles): 1. To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's Apostle. 2. To offer the (compulsory congregational) prayers dutifully and perfectly. 3. To pay Zakat (i.e. obligatory charity) . 4. To perform Hajj. (i.e. Pilgrimage to Mecca) 5. To observe fast during the month of Ramadan.
      Book Friday Prayerv Hadith No. 37

      Narrated Abu Umama bin Sahl bin Hunaif: I heard Muawiya bin Abi Sufyan (repeating the statements of the Adhan) while he was sitting on the pulpit. When the Muadh-dhin pronounced the Adhan saying, "Allahu-Akbar, Allahu Akbar", Muawiya said: "Allah Akbar, Allahu Akbar." And when the Muadh-dhin said, "Ash-hadu an la ilaha illal-lah (I testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah)", Muawiya said, "And (so do) I". When he said, "Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan Rasulullah" (I testify that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle), Muawiya said, "And (so do) I". When the Adhan was finished, Muawiya said, "O people, when the Muadh-dhin pronounced the Adhan I heard Allah's Apostle on this very pulpit saying what you have just heard me saying".
      Book Actions while praying Hadit No. 294

      Narrated 'Abdullah bin Masud: We used to say the greeting, name and greet each other in the prayer. Allah's Apostle heard it and said:--"Say, 'At-tahiyyatu lil-lahi was-salawatu wat-taiyibatu . Assalamu 'Alaika aiyuha-n-Nabiyu wa-rahmatu-l-lahi wa-barakatuhu. _ Assalamu alaina wa-'ala 'ibadi-l-lahi as-salihin.. Ashhadu an la ilaha illa-l-lah wa ashhadu anna Muhammadan 'abdu hu wa Rasuluh. (All the compliments are for Allah and all the prayers and all the good things (are for Allah). Peace be on you, O Prophet, and Allah's mercy and blessings (are on you). And peace be on us and on the good (pious) worshipers of Allah. I testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is His slave and Apostle.) So, when you have said this, then you have surely sent the greetings to every good (pious) worship per of Allah, whether he be in the Heaven or on the Earth . "
      Book Prophets 644

      Narrated 'Ubada: The Prophet said, "If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but Allah Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Slave and His Apostle, and that Jesus is Allah's Slave and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, Allah will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he had done even if those deeds were few." (Junada, the sub-narrator said, " 'Ubada added, 'Such a person can enter Paradise through any of its eight gates he likes.")
      Book Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet ) Hadit No. 221

      Narrated Al-Bara bin Azib: Allah's Apostle said, "When a Muslim is questioned in his grave, he will testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and that is what is meant by Allah's Statement:-- "Allah will keep firm those who believe with a Word that stands firm in this world and in the Hereafter." (14.27)
      Surah Ibrahim verses 27

      "Allah keeps firm those who believe, with the firm word, in worldly life and in the Hereafter. And Allah sends astray the wrongdoers. And Allah does what He wills."

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      The words in Kalima Tayaaba are the ones, on which having blind faith is necessary or you are no longer Muslim. I am not sure what addition CB is talking about but just because that addition is truth does not make it a requirement of a Muslim's faith. No disrespect intended but I can add (in arabic) that night comes after every day, and it would be absolute truth, but does that mean that I can make it part of kalima Tayyaba?
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      What I don't understand is the need to add or edit.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Niksik View Post
      What I don't understand is the need to add or edit.
      it might be the 'good biddat' thats talk about

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      What good?

      Pehley apna apna farz to nibhaa lein phir sochtay hain add ons key barey mein.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Niksik View Post
      What good?

      Pehley apna apna farz to nibhaa lein phir sochtay hain add ons key barey mein.
      This

      Quote Originally Posted by Amarbail View Post
      1. Bid'ah-e-Hasana (praiseworthy innovation) is that action which does not contradict with the Holy Quran and the Sunnah and was brought into practice after the time of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) for example, to construct religious institutions, to print the Holy Quran in the press, to hold gatherings of Meelad, to eat nice food and to put on attractive clothes, etc. Bid'ah-e-Hasana is not only permissable (Ja'iz) but at times it can be appreciable (Mustahab) and even essential (Waajib).

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      ik Allah, ik Rasool aur ik Quran. If this is the common denominator among Muslims then our Kalima should be what Propeht SAW asked to recite the new Muslims. Period. No addition required. Ali R.A will remain as one of the greatest companion and nobody can snatch that honor from him. So let the Kalima/Azaan be same as it used to be during Prophet's time.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sa1eem View Post
      I think either you did not read my post correctly or read it but did not understood correctly. So, let me clarify further (even though you could find same from my earlier post too)

      Kalma-e-Tayaba ‘LA ILAHA ILLALLAH MUHAMMAD- AR RASOOL-ALLAH’ (there is no ‘Allah’ but/except ‘The ‘Allah’ and Muhammad is ‘Rasul’ of Allah) is minimum belief requirement of Islam but it is not called ‘Shahadah’. This Kalma is statement but not oath. It is statement for confirmation to ourselves that what we believe (when we recite to ourselves) ... something what we can also declare loudly for others to know what we believe too.

      So, one should not mix one with another. One is ‘statement’ and other is ‘oath’.
      bro i think u didnt understand wht i said.. the question was simply asked whether you can add an additional words at the end of LA ILAHA ILLALLAH MUHAMMAD- AR RASOOL-ALLAH.. as you said n i quote " Kalma-e-Tayaba ‘LA ILAHA ILLALLAH MUHAMMAD- AR RASOOL-ALLAH’ (there is no ‘Allah’ but/except ‘The ‘Allah’ and Muhammad is ‘Rasul’ of Allah) is minimum belief requirement of Islam but it is not called ‘Shahadah’." my point is its not minimum belief.. if its minimum belief said then u will have to prove through QURAN n authentic HADIS rather thn giving your own statement... these are just 2 different QURANIC AYAT n denial of any QURANIC ayat is kuffr.. . let i add LA ILAHA ILLALLAH MUHAMMAD- AR RASOOL-ALLAH KHALID SAIF-ULLAH ALI KARAM-ULLAH, wht u say abt it.. am i going against islamic belief.. off course not

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      ok so my very valid points have been removed from this thread. i'd just like to re-iterate without offence that adding to kalma shahada is a sectarian move and sectarianinsm has been banned. it is a move to positively differentiate oneself from the ummah, by using an innovation, thus proves it is the group which makes the addition is a sect

      the verdict of innovation on the major form of addition used today, ie ashhadu ali waliun Allah' has come from both shia and sunni scholars

      the purpose of the addition is as important if not more so then what is actually said!

      thank you
      Last edited by shardmanny; Feb 9th, 2011 at 07:45 AM.

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      Yeah....here's a parable for those who want to understand.

      So you have a tablet of Pure Gold. It is called Pure Gold and it is differentiated from all other matter and elevated in worth due to its characteristics of being Pure Gold. Now someone decides to add Silver and makes an alloy. Will it have the same worth? Can it still be called Pure Gold? Won't buying such a metal under the impression of it being Pure Gold be fraud, injustice and misrepresentation by the sellers?

      So simply - Kalimah Tayyeba is not just another sentence. It is a Pure, Divine declaration and the basis of our faith. Any addition or subtraction to it is adultry to God's word and our faith.
      ~believes~

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