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      A Plan to Divide and Destroy the Shia Theology

      http://www.victorynewsmagazine.com/Conspir...ghtRevealed.htm
      Dua GO: M.Liaquat Raza - edited version

      In the book, A Plan to Divide and Destroy the Theology, an interview with Dr. Michael Brant has been published. He revealed many of the secret plans and eye opening facts. Dr. Brant talks about the sum of 900 million dollars being fixed for these secret missions.

      Research About Shias by Them :Presents the Shia Azadari practices as a group of ignorant and violent people who create disturbances amongst the general masses. Sanction large funds to disseminate such movements and promote the speakers who will speak in a way as to present Azadari as something illogical.

      Dr. Michael Brant Reveals Plans: Dr. Brant says that for the past many decades the West has governed the Islamic world.Over time the Muslim countries gained their independence but their concept of freedom, politics and culture was under the strong influence of the West, most especially in politics and finance. After independence, these countries did not give attention to the educational and cultural aspects making up society and continued to follow the "western thought culture" in the society.

      In 1979, the Iranian revolution brought about an earthquake, shattering the long term plan being carried out for years and years. At the beginning it was thought that it was due to the suppression of The Shah of Iran that the civil war had begun. It seemed that the religious people and leaders (Ulema?) were taking advantage of this for themselves. [edited] Hatred against the West in different countries such as Lebanon and Pakistan started to rise and the Shias became stronger.

      The 1983 Conference: Looking at all this, in 1983 the high authorities gave a conference. In this conference the British secret service also participated. Britain having vast experience with these countries was to have key ideas about what to do with regards to the Shiites.

      It was decided that the Iranian revolution was not just a result of the Shah's oppression but there were more realities and facts behind the scene. From which, the strongest factor was the Islamic authority being a guide to politicians and to manage the rule and politics of an Islamic country and the 1400 years old martyrdom of the grandson of the Prophet of Islam Mohammed?s grandson Hussein ('a). The mourning of Hussein ('a) is celebrated by Shias with great sorrow and grief. These are the two factors due to which Shiites seem more effective and active. In this meeting it was decided that Shias Islam must be understood and a project is to be launched for which a special section will be made. The budget fixed was 4 million $US.

      According to Dr. Michael Brant, the project was divided into 3 stages: (1) Data collection; (2) Short term targets; (3)Long term Targets

      In the first stage, research scholars were sent around the world from which 6 were sent to Pakistan. In the Early Surveys Questions Such as the Following Were Asked:

      First: Where in the world are Shiites residing and how many per area?

      Second: What is the social and economic status of the Shias and what are the differences amongst them?

      Third: How to amplify the internal conflicts and disagreements amongst the Shias?

      Fourth: How to magnify the differences already existing between the two major sects of Islam (Sunni and Shiite).

      Fifth: Why are they afraid of Shias.

      After this research, They Came to the Conclusion that:

      1. Shia Scholastic leaders (Marjas) are the real strength of this ( Jaffrey) school of thought who protect the Shia faith in all time at all cost. They are very strong about the principles and beliefs. They have never, in the vast Shia history, given allegiance to any ruling authority that is not practicing Islam. It was Ayatullah Shirazi's ruling that prevented the British from entering Iran.

      2. In Iraq, the largest institute of Islamic teaching for the Jaffari (Shiite) school of thought was in Najaf. Saddam Hussein tried to buy and control this institute but failed to do so. At the end he had to shut down the school and till this day it remains closed for public teaching.

      3. While, all the other religious institutions in the world usually go along with the government. It was the religious institution of Qum,( Iran) which was the main force behind the overthrowing of The Shah of Iran.

      4. In Lebanon the campaign of Ayatullah Musa Sadr forced the American, French and British armies to withdraw from Lebanon. Ever since Israel came into being, the Ayatullah stands as the greatest threat and challenge to it in the form of Hizbollah.

      Hence, from these encounters, we have concluded that direct confrontation with Shias results more in damage than any kind of success. Thus, it is wiser to work behind the veil. The old British tactic to divide and rule proved to be unsuccessful, so we adopted another way, which is divide and annihilate. We shall briefly summarize it below.

      The plan is to :

      1.Appoint those who are prejudiced and harbour enmity against Shias, and

      2.Glorify these (above) people. The idea is to use them against the Shias.

      3.Utilize negative propaganda against the Shiites to isolate them from the main stream of Islam.

      4.To provide literature which will stir up enmity for Shias.

      5.When these prejudiced people increase enough in number, use them as a weapon for war against the Shiites. [for example Taliban and Sipah e Sahaba].

      6. At the same time, propagate false information against Shias leaders and scholars, which will open up another door for their conspiracy.

      Thereby, the fifth column should become distorted, so that they are unpopular amongst their own people and the Shias start to hate their leaders.

      Azadari: On the aspect of Azadari Dr. Brant says that in Shiite Islam the practice of mourning of Hussein brings about great emotion within the Shias. The Shias get together to commemorate and recall the even of Kerbala. One person recites and/or speaks of the tragedy that took place and presents a vivid picture of Kerbala. The young and the old grieve and mourn for Hussein and his household. The speaker and the masses who attend the lecture are important to consider. It is due to this gathering and speech that the emotions of Shias are invigorated in such a way that they are ready to stand up and fight for the truth against falsehood and evil, even if it costs them their lives. Hence, money must be spent in order to not only hijack the speakers but also the masses.

      1. First off, those Shias who are more materialistic and whose beliefs are weak, who have some fame and can be used as sources amongst the people must be found. These are the people who will be used in order to influence the saying of the Azadari? practice.

      2. Then to bring out and encourage such speakers who do not possess correct knowledge nor the gnosis of Shia Islam.

      3. Furthermore, look for and find those Shias who need some kind of financial or material gain and use them to campaign against the Shia faith. Weaken the foundations of the Shias and blame it all on the Shiah Scholars and leaders (Marj?as).

      4. To encourage such practices in the mourning of Hussein ('a) which do not conform to the real Shiite beliefs and introduce new practices which will be against the teachings of the Shia faith.

      5. Present the Shia Azadari practices as a group of ignorant and violent people who create disturbances amongst the general masses. [Already can be found in various news articles on the internet]

      6. Sanction large funds to disseminate such movements and promote the speakers who will speak in a way as to present Azadari as something illogical. Hence, a school of thought based on logic will be presented to be without logic and spurious. This is to cause distress and dissections between the Shias.

      7. At the end strike them in the weaker moment.

      8. Research and investigate and gather information against the Shiah Scholars and leaders and then provide this information to unknown writers.

      9. Spend vast amounts of money to propagate the distorted information.

      10. Spread this literature amongst the general people and speakers.

      In this way, during the last phase of this movement against the Shias, the final blow would be to dismantle the central authority, on which Shias rely for their verdicts.

      Complete by 2010: By 2010, this is to be achieved and disperse the Shias and weaken them. The authority of Shiite scholars which would stand up to the ruling authorities, would be subdued by the Shias themselves to destroy the power of the Shia Scholars. Some of the activities for such a movement have already been launched successfully. Some are on the way to be executed in the future.

      http://www.victorynewsmagazine.com/Conspir...ghtRevealed.htm
      This article is a translation back into English from an Urdu article, which covers parts of the interview in the concerned book

      (haven't personally read the book)

      Dua GO: M.Liaquat Raza

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      Well i guess this post would be more needed in PA cuz of the current situation Of Pakistan where almost every day we see sectarian kilings going on. So this would allow people to see the bigger picture. I dont want this post to turn into a shia sunni conflict but to understand the third party conspiracies against the muslim world ! Peace
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      Uff.

      Another episode of hum mazloom hain series.


      Who is Dr Brant?
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      With more Sunni's than Shia's wouldn't it make more sense to go after the Sunni's instead? i mean if it was one giant massive plan that is...
      Its bigger on the inside!!

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      I would read the whole episode but whats amiss is the intro of Dr. Brant. Who is he?

      By the way, Bao Bihari, it is true that Shias are the most prosecuted community in Pakistan. They have lost close to a 1,000 members in 2012 alone. Given the ruthless and brutal nature of some of the incidents against them, I would suggest that show you a little more sensitivity. And if for whatever reason you can not say something consolodatary then it is better to say nothing at all. Just saying!
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      Asif, i do not support killing of shias or mirzais waghiara. But the way they harp about their masoomiayat is what makes me pissed of. You see that similar number of sunnis have been killed but no one mentions this. In gilgit area the government and majority is of shia(ismailis and ithna ashris) but still only news of shia killings is being propagated.

      Only count number of scholars killed and you will see that sunnis are on receiving end. In iran sunnis do not have as much rights as shias have in pakistan.

      There are only 2 groups that harp about their masoomiat that much. Shias and Jews.

      How many at this forum know about Mukhtar force/Sipah e Muhammad/Lashker e mehdi/ISO and their actions. This is how good the propaganda is

      Dont feel good by this shia sunni thing, but one should keep the records straight specially when the other party is deliberately trying to distort the facts.


      EDIT:With president /Ministers /Media /generals waghaira have a large out of proportion shia share how can you say they are being prosecuted.

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      Okay, can you tell me how many Sunnis have been killed say in 2012 in the sectarian violence? As far as I know, within Sunnis the group that suffers most is the Barelvis who themselves blame Wahabhi outfits for perpetrating their killings.
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      Yep, there was a article on Yahoo main page how Shia terrorists in Iran stopped busses and check ID's to pin point Sunnis and stoned them to death. Took out there eyes and cut there legs and heads. This is what ISO and Sipah Mohammed s.a.w do to Sunnis in Gilgit side and Queta.
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      Always better to use facts rather than rely on conjecture. Barelvis are majority in Pakistan, it doesn't stop them being oppressed (even their mosques are being taken over by groups that are armed, in South Pakistan). Arabs outnumber Jews by 1,000/1 but still get prosecuted in the very heart of the Middle East by the Jews. Then take the case of Shah of Iran or Hosni Mubarak of Egypt both were repressive to their own Shia, Sunni populations respectively (Hosni partnered Israel in crimes and blockades against the Palestinians). It is better to take off the glasses of religious bias and judge matters for what they actually are.
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      everyone is allowed their opinion, right? in my honest opinion shias are seemingly liberal but strategically treacherous and shiaism harbours vehemently blood thirsty longterm lusts.

      seemingly liberal: ordinarily they promote liberalism also known as moderatism. they ask muslims to accept them as fellow muslims. they do this in an innocent manner

      strategically treacherous: the adoption of liberalism/moderatism leads one away from Islam and this is what they really seek. accepting them as muslims equates to joining their camp without being one of them, this is a weak state of being, like ready to be eaten. this is fair aswell as they never claimed to promote islam, they promote liberalism/moderatism/shiaism, so they do this in an innocent manner too

      shiaism harbours vehemently blood thirsty longterm lusts: this can be seen in their extremism if you look carefully. they have many extremes which may be seen during their rituals be it blade self harm, hitting of ones own self with hand, and most notice-ably in their apparant inability to see the offensive nature of most of their beliefs. this aspect initself is disturbing since it beats both myself and mughal1 for emotionlessness. extreme is their recent attempt to overwhelm the online sphere with shiite literature, flooding sunni sites with nonsensical arguement. also some of their beliefs which are never talked about due to freedom to ditch whatever they like leaves them not able to call out these terrible inconsistencies. anyway i could go forever about this but i'll just say they do have dormant extremities


      shias need genuine reform of their school but it wont happen rather i believe they will in the future cause huge bloodshed where the overwhelming victims will be sunni

      although i fear this will happen. having recognised the possibilities, we must carry on as normal as the current crop are not those who will carry this out. that will be a future generation who pluck out the extreme dormant views coupled with political and military supremacy and possibly a leader who will try to enter Madina* but a boy will stop him


      *because it is the resting place of Abu Bakr and Umar (ALLAH SWT LOVES both of them). Again this shows further insight how i view shiites, they will attempt to enter due to their hatred of the Believers rather then any other primary afilliation with the place

      this is only my views about how i see the current situation but perhaps Allah SWT has other plans and they will join the mainstream

      this thread belongs in WA
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      i know someone who says almost the exact same things shardmanny says, except he says them about muslims in general.
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      If some one wants to discuss this, you can discuss this in private with me, dont feel good discussing shia/Sunni thing in public.
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      Dr Brant:
      "Dr. Brant was working for a long time for the CIA but due to his improper use of
      money and authority he was discharged from his post. Upon this he revealed many
      of the secret plans and eye opening facts in revenge of his losing his position
      with the CIA. He talks about the sum of 900 million dollars being fixed for
      these secrets missions and drug money being taken from Columbia and Afghanistan
      for the same purpose. Yet, this drug money was not used for the purpose it was
      allocated for and even the other sum was not taken care of properly."

      WWW.OPPRESSION.ORG

      Hope that answers! there's so much sectarian voilence going on in Pakistan and yet you call it hum mazloom hen series!
      and do some reasearch to find out why Shias are such a threat to the West. Iran would be a good example why does US and Isreal feel threatened by Iran and not By Saudi Arabia? Why Saudi Arabia never speaks up against whats happenning to the Muslim World Today. Why Iran is always the first one to step up and condemn any injustice done to Muslim world without any discrimination.



      Another episode of hum mazloom hain series.


      Who is Dr Brant?

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      its good that you dont support shia killings no human being should do that, what makes you say that Shias harp about their masoomiyet you want shias to stay quiet? When zulm is done it is wajib on you to speak against it! I dont know about the no. of sunnis that have been killed but here i think we should rely on facts instead of just coming up with assumptions.

      having Shia leaders in power does not make any difference what have they done to stop shia genocide? I think the only thing that bothers is you to have some shia leaders in power ! cuz you see them as minority and you dont care much as what happens to them.

      Why dont you see the propaganda being done by the west against the muslim world? are we here to discuss and compare the no. of shia sunni killings? aren't we talking about Muslims here? how does it always come down to shia sunni thing? why dont we see that this is what western propaganda is all about to divide and destroy!
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      Asif, i do not support killing of shias or mirzais waghiara. But the way they harp about their masoomiayat is what makes me pissed of. You see that similar number of sunnis have been killed but no one mentions this. In gilgit area the government and majority is of shia(ismailis and ithna ashris) but still only news of shia killings is being propagated.

      Only count number of scholars killed and you will see that sunnis are on receiving end. In iran sunnis do not have as much rights as shias have in pakistan.

      There are only 2 groups that harp about their masoomiat that much. Shias and Jews.

      How many at this forum know about Mukhtar force/Sipah e Muhammad/Lashker e mehdi/ISO and their actions. This is how good the propaganda is

      Dont feel good by this shia sunni thing, but one should keep the records straight specially when the other party is deliberately trying to distort the facts.


      EDIT:With president /Ministers /Media /generals waghaira have a large out of proportion shia share how can you say they are being prosecuted.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pakilarka View Post
      Yep, there was a article on Yahoo main page how Shia terrorists in Iran stopped busses and check ID's to pin point Sunnis and stoned them to death. Took out there eyes and cut there legs and heads. This is what ISO and Sipah Mohammed s.a.w do to Sunnis in Gilgit side and Queta.
      I would like to see that article please! ??

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      Naqvi - from oppression article you quoted.

      By Syeda Zehra
      Taken from "Anjuman-e-Sada-e-Aza" of North America.
      you missed last lines

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      This is what i could find

      Urban legend: The ultra hardline daily Kayhan is never at a loss for words, but sometimes lacks basic research skills. Recently it has been purveying another urban legend about how the official in charge of Shiism at the CIA, a Michael Brant, wrote that the Shah was overthrown because of the quality of the clerical leadership and the strength of faith in Imam Hossain. Therefore, he said, the CIA allocated a budget of $900 million to destroy Shiism. Kayhan said this was written "recently" by Brant "in his memoirs." This story, however, dates back to at least July 2001 in an article written by a Pakistani, Liaquat Raza, who says Brant was "the right-hand man to Bob Woodward, former chief of the CIA." (Woodward is a Washington Post writer and never headed the CIA.) Raza says Brant revealed the $900 million plot in an interview given for the book, "A Plan to Divide and Destroy the Theology." A check on amazon.com shows no such book. In fact, the only thing close that shows up is, "Divide and Destroy: Combating Satan's Destruction of the Christian Marriage.
      Hope that burries this kahani.
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