Beautilful Sayings of Hazarat Ali r.a.

SalmanNY · Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:29 PM

I just heard these sayings of Hazarat Ali r.a

" Mein Allah s.w.t saye darta houn, aur uskaye baad uss saye darta houn jo Allah s.w.t saye nahi darta".. Beautiful aint it ?

Then there is another one.....

Some one asked Hazarat Ali r.a ... ' Ya Ali r.a that guy in the nearby village was cursing you.'

hazarat Ali r.a replied..... ' i dont remember doing any 'Ehsaan' for him'.

I didnt get it so i asked my father.. what is the translation of it. He said i knowl that saying of Hazarat Ali r.a and i looked up the translation .. it means in your life no body will be your worst enemy but that person for whom you have done some ehsan.

I still dont quite get.. it .. but i do find it pretty true in at least my daily doings...
-Salman

**Baba G** · Nov 22nd, 2003, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by SalmanNY:
I just heard these sayings of Prophet Ali r.a

Prophet Ali r.a replied..... ' i dont remember doing any 'Ehsaan' for him'.

I'm curious about your use of the word Prophet with Ali

**Lajawab** · Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:35 PM

Even more curious is the title having Hazrat Ali

as 's.w.t.'...

**sweetpie** · Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by SalmanNY:
.. it means in your life no body will be your worst enemy but that person for whom you have done some ehsan.

That is very true actually, sadly enough.

**armughal** · Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:30 PM

u r doing SHIRK by adding s.w.t (short of subhanahi wa taala) to his name....

and u r doing kufr, takes u out of Islam, by calling Ali (ra) a Prophet....
even shiaas dont go to this extreme....

u shud be careful with ur words....

SalmanNY · Nov 23rd, 2003, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by armughal:
u r doing SHIRK by adding s.w.t (short of subhanahi wa taala) to his name....

and u r doing kufr, takes u out of Islam, by calling Ali (ra) a Prophet....
even shiaas dont go to this extreme....

u shud be careful with ur words....

All of you are right it was a sad mistake by me.. i corrected my self hopefully Allah s.w.t will forgive me ... thanx everyone for pointing out my mistake. I appreciate that.
-Salman

SalmanNY · Nov 23rd, 2003, 01:18 AM

I cant delete the S.w.t Part from Hazrat Ali in the subject line... somebody help ? BabaG you are the admin can you edit it or do i have to delete it or something ??
-Salman

**Baba G** · Nov 23rd, 2003, 01:22 AM

edited topic.

**Ibn Sadique** · Nov 23rd, 2003, 05:08 AM

I have heard a different explanation for this.

In Islam, for every ‘Ehsaan' done to us, we must pay back with equally good ‘Ehsaan'.

Since this man had cursed Hazrat Ali (ra) for no reason, in the Hereafter he will have to give some of his ‘hassanaats’ (sawabs) to Hazrat Ali (ra).

By saying, ' i dont remember doing any 'Ehsaan' for him'., Hazrat Ali is meaning to say that the person has ‘done’ a good deed by ‘presenting’ him with free ‘hassanaats’ (which will last for ever) without Hazart Ali (ra) having done any ‘Ehsaan' for that man in the first place.

So the crux of the point I am making is that Hazrat Ali (ra) is saying “I don’t remember doing any 'Ehsaan' for him so how come he has ‘gifted’ his ‘hassanaats’ to me”.

**Sheraz CT** · Nov 23rd, 2003, 05:20 AM

Beware of Misers and evil, these are the poeple who do not fear Allah

By Allah, nobody except the faithful befriends me and nobody except the hypocrite becomes my enemy

SalmanNY · Nov 23rd, 2003, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by Baba G:
edited topic.

thank you babag By taking out time and editing it i appreciate that
ibn-sadique.. I think your explaintion is better than the one i gave it makes more sense thank you again for correcting me
-Salman

**ZulfiOKC** · Nov 24th, 2003, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by SalmanNY:
I just heard these sayings of Hazarat Ali r.a
" Mein Allah s.w.t saye darta houn, aur uskaye baad uss saye darta houn jo Allah s.w.t saye nahi darta".. Beautiful aint it ?
-Salman

Assalam Aleekum
salman ji, can you tell me where did you get the particular quote from.

SalmanNY · Nov 24th, 2003, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by ZulfiOKC:

Assalam Aleekum
salman ji, can you tell me where did you got the particular quote from.

" Mein Allah s.w.t saye darta houn, aur uskaye baad uss saye darta houn jo Allah s.w.t saye nahi darta"..
Jazak AllahKher

I just have to dig it out ..but i will get back at you here or pm... take care and happy eid
-Salman

**Pathan Bhai** · Nov 25th, 2003, 12:02 AM

Salman Bhai, try getting hold of the following book if you may. Its got sayings and writings of Imam Ali gathered over the period of over 10 years:

-Nahjul Balagha -English translation called Peak of Eloquence

**little human** · Nov 25th, 2003, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by Pathan Bhai:
Salman Bhai, try getting hold of the following book if you may. Its got sayings and writings of Imam Ali gathered over the period of over 10 years:

-Nahjul Balagha -English translation called Peak of Eloquence

I like this book :love:

SalmanNY · Nov 25th, 2003, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Pathan Bhai:
Salman Bhai, try getting hold of the following book if you may. Its got sayings and writings of Imam Ali gathered over the period of over 10 years:

-Nahjul Balagha -English translation called Peak of Eloquence

Thank you very much for the recommendation i will surely look into that... if someone agreed with it already then definatley it must be worth reading.. i will look for it inshAllah
Eid Mubarik to to All of you and your family
-Salman

**Pagluu** · Nov 25th, 2003, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by Pathan Bhai:
Salman Bhai, try getting hold of the following book if you may. Its got sayings and writings of Imam Ali gathered over the period of over 10 years:

-Nahjul Balagha -English translation called Peak of Eloquence

My father gave me this book as a present on my birthday.
This book changed the whole way of how i percieved everything around myself including my relationship with Allah (swt). Some of the Hadrath Ali (k.a.w.) sayings and writings take one deep inside complex world of human phyche. I have heared that this book is part of syllabus at some of the major Universities around the world including Al Azhar Universtiy and Hawza Islamia PLUS many other western insitutes too.
We can read so many books written by Western writers but they will never be the ultimate as they are based on lots of guessing. On the other side, every word spoken by Hadrath Ali is in accordance with Quran and teachings of the holy Prophet (pbuh), i.e. nature.

**batameez** · Nov 25th, 2003, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Pathan Bhai:

-Nahjul Balagha -English translation called Peak of Eloquence

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