I am an skeptic of this whole deal. It is rooted in our inner most fears- Not being able to see Khana Kaba.

Urban Legend!

Originally posted by bao bihari:






yes the programme was onaired and it was very scary...but dont u think the aalim did the right thing ?......could'nt he asked the womed to do tooba ......he right away called his husband and asked him to get separated..........

ABOUT THE HOST AND PROG>

also... i sincerely think the host of ALim online is a fitnah ..........for he constantly tries to invoke some secretarian discussion and secretarian imbalance in his programms.........by not inviting major sects....look what is the concepts of his elder brother...........
A new fitnah

Allah save us from all fitnah's

Sir
What type of website are you talking about. Man, even Shias
don't do that.

Originally posted by BrokenSky:


For the link you provided,
Where does it say that Dr. Imran Liaquat is Dr. Aamir Liaquat Hussain's [Host of Aalim Online] brother. Kindly requested, can you please point out that specific page where it says that he is Aamir's brother.

Dr imran liaquat and Dr aamir liaquat r brothers....thier father shaikh liaquat is a known MQM leader.......AAmir liaquat is also mqm parlimentarian...........the website is changed now...but u can always confirm this thing either by going to imran liaquat office on tariq road.......or asking aamir liaquat.......

Imran liaquat calls himself shia ...his wife is boasted to be the firt lady AZADAR of the world.........u can confirm all this by contacting the person......they r very critical to iran..........they done thier PHD from some forign country and miraculsly got instant exposure on getting back home.....

is that enough bhai.......

1) i dont think that even the biggest enemies of Islam (abu jahal, abu lahab etc) were ever deprived of Kaaba's sight....
so why shud this lady be....
and the door of tobah is open till her death, so u cant just rule her out....

2) in what position r the ulema to call a muslim, quilty of a 'kabira' sin, as a kaafir....
even those who commit murder, adultery, etc r not termed as kaafirs....
and neither r their marriages void....

i have seen many episodes of AALIM ONLINE and dr amir liaqat seems a pretty reasonable man....

also... i sincerely think the host of ALim online is a fitnah ..........for he constantly tries to invoke some secretarian discussion and secretarian imbalance in his programms.........by not inviting major sects....look what is the concepts of his elder brother...........

Originally posted by armughal:
1) i dont think that even the biggest enemies of Islam (abu jahal, abu lahab etc) were ever deprived of Kaaba's sight....
so why shud this lady be....
and the door of tobah is open till her death, so u cant just rule her out....

2) in what position r the ulema to call a muslim, quilty of a 'kabira' sin, as a kaafir....
even those who commit murder, adultery, etc r not termed as kaafirs....
and neither r their marriages void....

i have seen many episodes of AALIM ONLINE and dr amir liaqat seems a pretty reasonable man....

so aamir liaquat hussain is shia

Sounds like a prank call

Originally posted by BrokenSky:



so aamir liaquat hussain is shia

yaar it is not the matter if he is shia or not......the way they have creeped to the fame ...the way they r approaching the future is very alarming.......that is why i have given u the information aboout him ..........and interestingly aamir is sunni....his brother shia.......first of all they tried with dr imran(elder bro)....with his interviews here and there ..calling altaf hussain dajjal etc.....but when this did not clicked ....mr aamir jumped to the fame...........call this weired ...but this is how i percieve them.........

Forget black magic, I'm still stuck at why she wasn't able to see the Qibla.

^ exactly!

Could it be a prank call?

interesting ..

This conversation is taken by Aalim Online ( A famous Geo Program ) which was censored and was not shown in the program.

First of all if the programe was not gone on air then thier is no credebility of that story period

Secondly, I agree that what lady did(Black Magic) is very common in our society and it is a grave sin because it is against other muslims and clear shirk. So if anyone has done it, he/she should repent, ask forgivness from allah and the person, against whom the magic was done. If not forgiven by that person, Allah will not forgive him/her.

yaar it is not the matter if he is shia or not......the way they have creeped to the fame ...the way they r approaching the future is very alarming.......that is why i have given u the information aboout him ..........and interestingly aamir is sunni....his brother shia.......first of all they tried with dr imran(elder bro)....with his interviews here and there ..calling altaf hussain dajjal etc.....but when this did not clicked ....mr aamir jumped to the fame...........call this weired ...but this is how i percieve them.........

Mr. Bao Bihari: I am unable to understand what you are implying to say here. I think he is quite a reasonable guy and does a good show without and controvercy. Then if is getting popular then what is wrong with it. He should not be judged by his family or else do .

what is so alarming ?

Originally posted by Code_Red:
Mr. Bao Bihari: I am unable to understand what you are implying to say here. I think he is quite a reasonable guy and does a good show without and controvercy. Then if is getting popular then what is wrong with it. He should not be judged by his family or else do .

what is so alarming ?

Bhai.....u can judge a person by the company he keeps......also a mufti was planted in central asia by russians before they captured their lands.....the mufti legitimised their rule by saying that jihad against russians is haram.......in subcontinent many socalled religious bigots were planted to stop jihad and promote islam which suited the rulers.......i am not saying that the person is bound to be bad ...but what i am implying is it is better we should kep a distence from the guy.........now u see many households in pakistan justify an act saying that it was aired in aalimonline as halal.......also aamir i now promoted as a religoius leader in pakistan ...with schools and colleges inviting him for religoius lectures.etc..........


ISLAM and eeman is the most precious gift ALLAH has given to us......and we should try to save it from all fitnahs.............

as far as controversy is concerned .......wh yis that he keep on shifting aalim of one sect while a particular sect aalim is always kept constant.......

I dont know regarding this not seeing the QIbla,, but I saw an interview on the PTV long time back, may be ten years , in which a guy stated tat he went for Hajj and while doing Rami(throwing of the stones), He was getting struck by his own Stones, meaning that his own stones were coming back to him. he tried that several times and alolthe days he got struck by his stones. so he asked the Aalim that time what is the problem, Alim told him that may be you have done something really bad in your life, for that ALLAH aint happy with you and he is jsut showing you his anger and disappointment. He said yes. then after that the guy performed Toba. and went again for Hajj, that thing didnt happen again..



On another incident,, I heard from my freind,(it happened in his area).. One woman died, and whenever her relatives tried to bury her in the grave,, that grave used to get filled with snakes and lizrds and other creepy insects.. they tried several different graves. but when they dig te grave, the graves used to be fine, but when they bring in the body, it used to get filled with those creature.. so another Aalim gave the fatwa that since she did blakc magic all her life, thats why ALLAH aint happy with her either...


so my point in writting all this is that. ALLAH can show the sign of his anger and the punishment he can give to the ppl during there lives and on the earth as well... So if its true that she was uanble to see KABAA< then for sure ALLAH didnt wanted her to get the belssing.

Originally posted by bao bihari:


Bhai.....u can judge a person by the company he keeps......also a mufti was planted in central asia by russians before they captured their lands.....the mufti legitimised their rule by saying that jihad against russians is haram.......in subcontinent many socalled religious bigots were planted to stop jihad and promote islam which suited the rulers.......i am not saying that the person is bound to be bad ...but what i am implying is it is better we should kep a distence from the guy.........now u see many households in pakistan justify an act saying that it was aired in aalimonline as halal.......also aamir i now promoted as a religoius leader in pakistan ...with schools and colleges inviting him for religoius lectures.etc..........


ISLAM and eeman is the most precious gift ALLAH has given to us......and we should try to save it from all fitnahs.............

as far as controversy is concerned .......wh yis that he keep on shifting aalim of one sect while a particular sect aalim is always kept constant.......

Ok I got your point .I agree

I will be least surprised if anything like this happen, cuz it has already happened so many time .Many Aalims are corrupt and many are working in the hands of jews by increasing harted among muslim by spreading secterianism.

Allama Tahir-ul-qadri got so much respect from al-over the country cuz of his knowledge and Intellect, but he got polluted in the pond of politics.

So no worries about more fitna's then we already have.

I may be wrong but from what I know and believe Allah does not interfere in manners that go against nature. Her not seeing the Ka'aba, the stones coming back to the person who was throwing them all are against laws of nature. In ref. to the second case there are so many people performing Hajj, how is it possible to keep track of the stone you threw??? It was probably others' stones falling on him one way or the other. All these incidents sound more like made up tales and fables just to scare people from azaab and stuff.

All these are stories told to children to scare them in Pakistan. I can't believe some of you believe this unislamic nonsense.

i'd have told the lady to take her bifocals with her when she travels..

and as for the 'kankars' returning.. maybe that was God's way of telling him not to indulge in a ritual of mushrik origins..