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- Apr 29th, 2005, 08:57 AM #1
An evil of society, that harms every aspect of ur life. It destroys ur capabilities of thinking, decreases productivity & can even cause death at times. I was a victim at one stage too, but I held tightly on to Allah Almighty's rope. Alhamdulillah now Im out of it, but I still feel there are some barriers to cross. Let me give u my point of view, that I have always believed that Allah's power is far more powerful than black magic or any other evil. This has to be every Muslim's primary belief, else black magic will have more influence on u. I have always regarded black magic as **** & will continue to do so.
The magicians would stoop to the lowest Xtreme to achieve their level of status within their evil culminated society. They eat all the rotten trash that u can think of, from **** to dead baby foetus, from lizards to snakes...!!!!! There are various forms of black magic, the most dangerous being sifli.
They are the worst form of evil. From what I've heard, the black magic that we see 2day is only a page from a book that was destroyed centuries ago.
A lot of guppies asked for my help my via pm so here is my reply in detail. Im not here to intimidate all of u folks, rather instill a cure for this fear that everyone has in the back of their head, & remove it permanently.
Anyone affected by this evil can notice its effects instantly. There will be "strange" events like blood on the walls, or ur clothes, smell of rotten flesh, bad foul stenches etc...But this should not deter u from staying on the right path nor should it bring even the faintest hint of fear in ur heart. Remember satan breeds on fear & hate, so let the fear of Allah grow in ur heart & make it strong, not the fear of the unknown.
Having said all of this, here are some cures, that I've found in my research after sticking around with some aalims.
If the person feels he is under a black spell, recite Surah Al Baqarah over a bucket of water(with leaves from a neem tree) & bath with it everyday for 7 consecutive days. This has to be done consecutively without any breaks in between.
If the person feels his/her home is affected, then recite Surah Al Baqarah for 7 consecutive days clearly so that the recitation can be heard in every corner of the home. A stereo playing the recitation of Surah Al Baqarah is also valid, & has the same effect.
Recite Ayat Al Kursi followed by Surah Al Kafiroon, Al Uhud, Al Falaq, Al Nas after every obligatory prayers. One can also recite this before driving a car or travelling, to protect him/her from any harm.
Performing Wodhu before u go to sleep at night.
Recite Ayat Al Kursi every night before u sleep, this also protects u from nightmares.
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There are means of protecting oneself against the dangers of witchcraft before it happens, the most important and beneficial of which is protecting oneself by reciting the dhikrs, du’aa’s and prayers for protection that are prescribed in sharee’ah, such as reciting Aayat al-Kursiy after every obligatory prayer, after the dhikrs that are prescribed after the salaam. It may also be recited when going to sleep. Aayat al-Kurisy is the greatest verse in the Holy Qur’aan, in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Allaah! Laa ilaaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyoom (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists). Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursiy extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great”
One may also recite Qul Huwa Allaahu ahad, Qul ‘Aoodhu bi Rabb il-Falaq and Qul ‘a’oodhu bi Rabb il-naas (i.e., the last three soorahs of the Qur’aan) following every obligatory prayer, and recite these three soorahs three times at the beginning of the day, after Fajr prayer, and at the beginning of the night, after Maghrib.
Another dhikr is to recite the last two verses of Soorat al-Baqarah at the beginning of the night. In these verses Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“The Messenger (Muhammad) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allaah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. (They say,) “We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers” — and they say, “We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all).”
286. Allaah burdens not a person beyond his scope. He gets reward for that (good) which he has earned, and he is punished for that (evil) which he has earned. “Our Lord! Punish us not if we forget or fall into error, our Lord! Lay not on us a burden like that which You did lay on those before us (Jews and Christians); our Lord! Put not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Pardon us and grant us forgiveness. Have mercy on us. You are our Mawlaa (Patron, Supporter and Protector) and give us victory over the disbelieving people”
It is narrated in a saheeh report that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever recites Aayat al-Kursiy at night will have protectors from Allaah and no devil will come near him until morning comes.” And it is reported in a saheeh report that he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also said: “Whoever recites the last two verses of Soorat al-Baqarah at night, that will suffice him.” The meaning – and Allaah knows best – is that they will suffice him against all evil.
You should also frequently recite du’aa’s seeking refuge in the “perfect words of Allaah from the evil of that which He has created, night and day, when stopping in any place in the city or in the desert, by air or by sea, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever makes a stop then says: ‘A’oodhu bi kalimaat Allaah il-taammati min sharri ma khalaq (I seek refuge in the perfect words of Allaah from the evil of that which He has created),’ nothing will harm him until he moves on from that place.”
At the beginning of the day and at the beginning of the night, the Muslim should say three times: “Bismillaah illaahi laa yadurru ma’a ismihi shay’un fi’l-ard wa la fi’l-sama’ wa huwa al-samee’ ul-‘aleem (In the name of Allaah with Whose name nothing is harmed on earth nor in heaven, and He is the All-Hearing, All-Knowing)” because it is narrated in a saheeh report that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) encouraged that, and that is a means a protection against all evil.
These dhikrs and prayers for protection are among the greatest means of protecting oneself against the evils of witchcraft and other evils, for the one who recites them regularly and with sincerity, faith and trust in Allaah, depending on Him and keeping their minds and hearts open to what the evidence says. They are also one of the greatest weapons for removing the effects of witchcraft once it has taken place; as well as that one should beseech Allaah a great deal and ask Him to relieve the harm.
Another du’aa’ that has been narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) for treating sickness caused by witchcraft and other things, and which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used as a ruqyah to treat his companions, is: “Allaahumma Rabb al-Naas, adhhib al-ba’s wa’shfi, anta al-Shaafiy, laa shifaa’a illa shifaa’uka, shifaa’an laa yughaadiru saqaman (O Allaah, Lord of mankind, remove the evil and grant healing, for You are the Healer. There is no healing except Your healing, which does not leave any sickness).” This should be recited three times.
And there is the ruqyah with which Jibreel (peace be upon him) treated the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Bismillaah urqeek, min kulli shay’in yu’dheek, wa min sharri kulli nafsin aw ‘aynin haasidin Allaah yushfeek, bismillaah urqeek (In the name of Allaah I perform ruqyah for you, from everything that is harming you, from the evil of every soul or envious eye may Allaah heal you, in the name of Allaah I perform ruqyah for you).” This should also be repeated three times
I'll continue adding more info when I get the time
May Allah protect every one from this evil. AmeeN summa AmeeN
Last edited by Mal1k; Apr 29th, 2005 at 09:03 AM.I raced @200kph, crashed & survived. If you havent seen God, your not driving fast enough.
- Apr 29th, 2005, 09:06 AM #2
yes mal1k it is pure evil. These days it is practised a lot in our society. When I went to Pakistan I saw that more and more people have started relying on Black Magic than asking allah.
Yaar Karachi main Ullu(Owls) isliye baday mehengay hain....
May Allah protect us all from doing this evil or being affected by it.Oh, everything's too damned expensive these days. This Bible cost 15 bucks! And talk about a preachy book! Everybody's a sinner! Except this guy.
- Apr 29th, 2005, 09:11 AM #3
Yea homie ur right, this evil Xists a lot in subcontinent & Oman & UAE has all the influence from the subcontinent & Oman. Oman has a lot of bad cases too, but Africa is the worst.
I agree black magic can be killed thru further black magic, but to get rid of a wrong by doing wrong is not encouraged anywhere in Islam. Although scientifically two negatives become a positive, but I firmly believe that Allah's power is far more superior than any other power known to mankind.I raced @200kph, crashed & survived. If you havent seen God, your not driving fast enough.
- Apr 29th, 2005, 05:31 PM #4
Feel free to post ur opinions people...I raced @200kph, crashed & survived. If you havent seen God, your not driving fast enough.
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i never took black magic seriously. my cousins would tell me stories about it but i never believed them. i never knew that many people actually believed in it.
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Looks like an informative post."Today in heaven they opened up a new chest dedicated to charity. It's name ?"
- Apr 29th, 2005, 07:20 PM #7
just one example on how it is practised in pakistan
Tales From The Dark Side
While black magic is an ancient practice, used for diverse purposes, in Pakistan it seems to be largely focused on bringing to bay reluctant lovers. Sanna Bucha visits the practitioners of the darker occult sciences and finds that the means used to attain the desired objectives are often beyond the pale, sometimes dangerously so. The question is just what lengths are people willing to go to make their dreams come true?
By Sanna Bucha
What are the three essential ingredients for a love potion so potent it's guaranteed to have even the most reluctant Romeo fall at your feet? Subscribe to Cosmopolitan dogma, and that heady brew may include a dash of spice, a dose of sex and a generous smattering of self-confidence. But if you're addicted to Akhbar-e-Jahan, Qaumi or midweek magazines, the hottest selling concoction comes in a bottle - courtesy the babas and amils of black magic. The recipe may sound anything but bewitching, but, the myth goes, the mixture of a few drops of fresh menstrual blood and urine, that has had a practitioner's magic mantras chanted on it, in your lover's favourite food, is the next best thing to a personal genie - and a damned sight more accessible! And which lovestruck, pining Romeo and Juliet could resist the promise of mehboob aap kay kadmon mein…
Certainly not Shakila, 26, who had been involved with her neighbour, Hassan for almost five years. Hassan seemed devoted, but reluctant to take the marital plunge. Shakila tried everything in her power to convince Hassan to make the commitment, particularly since her parents were getting increasingly desperate to "see her settled," fearing she would soon be over the hill. But Hassan would not yield. To the rescue came Shakila's maid, who introduced her to black magic through Amil Rehmat Shah in North Nazimabad.
Shakila proved a willing student of the black arts and within 21 days of beginning the rituals, Hassan and Shakila were engaged. "I was petrified about what the consequences of my actions might be, but I had no choice - I was desperate. I was really apprehensive about giving baba jee my menstrual blood and saliva to make the 'spell' successful, but after he convinced me there would be positive results, I agreed," says Shakila. Shakila paid Amil Rehmat Shah almost 10 thousand rupees for his services, and has now been married three years. She says, for her, the money and effort was worth it, and would now not hesitate to resort to black magic again if the need arose.
The lure of the black arts is understandable, especially for impressionable young women - though they are not the only subscribers to this dark practice. Numerous ads appear in the newspapers every day, promising a miracle cure for every problem: a girl's overbearing in-laws can be brought around, an unfaithful husband brought to book, failed businesses can be made to prosper, and even if you're having a problem conceiving, have no fear - the babajees are here! Certainly, enough vulnerable young women take the bait.
Farida, 25, had been seeing Tahir for almost five years and their affair was on the verge of materialising into marriage, when suddenly Tahir's mother seemed to develop a strong dislike for Farida. This came as a jolt for Farida since Tahir's mother had hitherto appeared genuinely fond of her. Farida's mother, however, was not surprised. She suspected that this was the handiwork of her sister, Farida's aunt, who had some know-how of black magic and a perfect motive: she wanted Farida to marry her own son. But Farida wasn't having any of that. She decided to seek the help of an amil. Scanning numerous papers, she came across one advert that seemed authentic. However, she was apprehensive about taking Professor Sayyid Gul up on his offer of "Apni marzi kee shadi… sirf aik din mein man chaha nateeja." She decided to play it safe by first explaining to him what she desired. She told the alim she did not want to cast any spell on her lover's mother or her aunt - she just wanted him to break the spell her aunt had supposedly cast on her would-be mother-in-law. A deal was struck and Farida paid the alim 7,400 rupees as per the agreement. Three months later Farida and Tahir were married.
While black magic is as ancient as the hills and its practice in different cultures, diverse - as are its purposes: to settle scores, defeat enemies, sate feelings of jealousy, etc. - in Pakistan it seems to be largely focused on bringing to bay reluctant lovers.
Nonetheless, while restricted in scope, the practice is complex, sometimes bordering on the grotesque, comprising an amalgam of traditions, both local rituals and borrowed international practices.
The study of ancient magic can teach us much, not only about ancient society, but about human nature and social structures in general. However, the use of magic is essentially a manifestation of the innate human desire for control - to control one's natural environment, one's social world, and ultimately one's destiny. The techniques may have changed over the last few centuries but the goal remains the same.
While black magic is often used in the name of that most sublime of emotions, love, it is anything but pristine, because the means used to attain the desired objective under the umbrella of black magic are often beyond the pale - morally and ethically. And in the process, sometimes people can get hurt.
A case in point. Reeta 28, a Hindu girl, became engaged to a family friend, Anil, when she turned 20. Anil found a job in Dubai and preparations for their marriage got underway. On the day of the mehndi however, Anil called from Dubai and called off the wedding. Reeta was shattered. She discovered that her aunt had done black magic on her, so her own daughter could marry Anil. That discovery transpired when Reeta was taken to a Bengali Baba in Gulshan-e-Iqbal by a family friend. He told her her bad luck owed to black magic. "Baba jee told me that he saw this woman who had messed up my chances of happiness. He asked for 14,000 rupees - 7000 in advance and 7000 after the work was done. He said that I would find out who it was in less than 20 days and Anil would come back to me within 41 days. I didn't believe him as I sincerely believed that no member of my family would ever want to harm me. However, since he is known to be the only amil in Karachi who cannot only break black magic spells, but also reverse them to work against the doer of the first spell, and with interest, I went along.
"I paid him the money and was about to leave when he told me that I could not, under any circumstances call him or come to visit him before 41 days had passed. That further convinced me the man was a fraud," says Reeta.
Shortly thereafter, however, strange things started to happen. One of Reeta's aunts fell ill. Three days later, her daughter, Reeta's cousin, had a car accident, and a week later her son fell off the building he was having constructed. Reeta became fearful and tried to contact the baba, but in vain. He refused to see or talk to her. But as promised, 39 days later, Anil was back and they are soon to be married. Meanwhile, her aunt admitted that she had done black magic on Reeta.
In Reeta's case she managed to get positive results, but not all such stories have had happy endings as 28-year-old Tehseen could tell you.
Tehseen and Iqbal got married some six years ago, after a two-year-long relationship. Iqbal, however, had been engaged to his cousin, Fatima, since childhood and ending the relationship proved difficult. Nevertheless, after much ado, the marriage took place, and Tehseen soon won her in-laws hearts. But not all was to be right. When the couple decided to start a family, the problems begain. Tehseen would get pregnant, have an ostensibly healthy pregnancy and go into labour normally, but she would give birth to a still-born. Numerous tests done indicated no internal problem or complication
Finally after several stillbirths, Tehseen's parents decided to take their daughter to a renowned amil. He told Tehseen to dig up the back of her house, where he said she would find the cause of her miseries. Tehseen was intrigued and duly had her back courtyard dug up. That unearthed the skeleton of a rooster whose genitals had been stitched together. Apparently, this is a common amal to cause infertility and in Tehseen's case had been done by Fatima who believed that if Tehseen would not be able to produce a child, Iqbal would eventually marry her.
The worst form of black magic is 'sifli amal,' which involves not just the use of diverse bodily secretions but, also, is often utilised to harm others. How efficacious this practice is, is a moot point, but more and more people are deviating from traditional religion and practicing this form of magic. And Pakistan, with its grinding poverty and illiteracy, engenders superstition, making for a perfect breeding ground for desperate measures such as black magic - often sifli amal
And as practitioners of the block arts themselves acknowledge, while their powers of sifli can procure what you asked for, it may be a far cry from what you actually want. In fact sometimes the fallout of their 'spells,' real or imagined - can be dangerous, and the effects are often irreversible. Take Fareed's case: Fareeda, 36, resorted to black magic in a desperate bid to get her errant lover, Javed, to marry her. Magic or otherwise, he succumbed, but the dream turned into a nighmare. Javed proved a violently abusive and flagrantly unfaithful husband. He remarried three times. Additionally Fareeda learnt she could not bear a child. Nonetheless she could not bring herself to leave Javed. As a result she has spent the last 10 years in abject misery.
Now Fareeda believes this is her comeuppance - divine punishment for trying to interfere with God's plan.
Then there are the charlatans who can destroy lives by exploiting peoples' vulberabilities. A young girl, Zainab, went to an amil seeking his help to reform her irresponsible husband. The amil asked her for detailed information about her husband, his family, his property etc., which he claimed was necessary to make his magic work. A naive Zainab did as she was told. Meanwhile the amil contacted Zainab's husband and in-laws and, in exchange for a generous sum of money, fabricated tales about Zainab and all the harm she wanted to do to her husband and in-laws. Zainab's handwritten note with all the information about her in-laws, including some intimate details the alim had asked for, rang the death knell for Zainab's marriage. Zainab is now divorced and when asked to share her experience, strictly recommends that all people keep away from these "dhokaybaaz" amils.
The worst consequence of black magic, however, perhaps is what befell Nadeem and Amna. Amna had solicited the services of an amil to cast a spell on her husband, Nadeem, three years earlier, so that he would ditch his girlfriend, with whom he had been having a long-standing affair. The spell was complex as the amil suspected that Nadeem's extra-marital relationship was based not on mere infatuation but love. Amna was, however, willing to go to any lengths to get Nadeem back. The spell was cast, after numerous warnings from the amil himself, who did not know what the consequences of it would be. A few days later when Nadeem and his girlfriend were in the car, they were hit by a truck. His girlfriend died on the spot, while Nadeem was permanently paralysed. Even in this debilitated state, Nadeem still yearns for his lost love and while Amna and him share a home - and that is about the only thing they share.
There are many other professors and amils in Karachi who advertise their services in various newspapers. The Urdu daily, Qaumi, for example, carries an average of six to 10 ads a day, while Mag advertises a whole page every week. One can gauge the target market from the publication. Interestingly, it is common to see cars like BMWs and VTIs, jeeps and Corollas parked outside the homes of amils, particularly one in Kharadar. Glimpses of gold-bangled hands, peeping out from chaddars worn by women who frequent these sites, prove that it is not just the lower middle class that is visiting the amils but women of all classes.
While the babas have assorted methods of operation, there are certain standard procedures. One of these involves a client paying 125 rupees for zaicha, which basically comprises the amil drawing out his client's birth chart, identifying the stars influencing his/her life at that point, the difficulties which loom ahead and the means to avert unpleasant situations. Some amils paint an overly gloomy picture of the present and prescribe endless totkas (charms) - each for a price, of course - to counter bad fortune, thereby keeping their clients hooked; others actually have powers of hypnosis that can convince the vulnerable to do even the most unseemly things in the belief that these actions will yield the remedy for what afflicts them. And while in their desperation, some clients readily bypass any qualms they may have about the religious correctness of these practices, the amils manage to shape the perceptions of those about what is acceptable vis-a-vis religion. In fact, many babas, faqirs and amils display Islamic calligraphy on the walls of their "offices" falsely linking their practice to religious rituals. Thirty-something, well-spoken Professor Sikander Shah maintains that he has the power of 40 or so 'jinns' who help him settle problems related to love, business, family etc. Ask if he believes his "spiritual remedies" are in consonance with Islam, and he answers, "If a personal problem can be solved and no one gets hurt in the process, I don't see anything wrong with it.
"It is claimed that black magic can not only affect the prevailing circumstance and future prospects of a person and deprive him materially of every thing he owns, but can also affect the psyche of the victim to such an extent that he has no will-power and cannot extricate himself from the sinister situation he is in. Often the victim even loses the will to live. And increasingly, the effects of black magic can become more chronic, dangerous and ultimately, even fatal. The fact is that even if the symptoms are purely psychosomatic, they are no less dangerous. While there is no scientific evidence to support the existence of black magic, and it is scoffed at by many, and while many of those who have attempted it have come out with their hands and pockets empty, it is, nonetheless, a universally practiced craft. And often a terrifying one.
http://www.newsline.com.pk/NewsJan2003/society1jan.htmOh, everything's too damned expensive these days. This Bible cost 15 bucks! And talk about a preachy book! Everybody's a sinner! Except this guy.
- Apr 29th, 2005, 07:21 PM #8
Black magic casts its spell on the aggrieved
By Amir Nafees
LAHORE: On the upper floor of the Mairaj building on Lytton Road, Haji Abdul Razzaq sits on the floor scribbling on a piece of paper. This is his office, from where he has dispensed amulets to ward off evil spells for the last 14 years.
“Even the Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) was once a victim of black magic,” said Mr Razzaq, holding up a copy of the Tahfim-ul-Bukhari, a collection of Hadith or the sayings of the Prophet (peace). “By the grace of Allah, he recovered,” he said, “but if even the Prophet (peace) can be targeted, you must realise anyone can.”
This realisation is perhaps what takes many to the some 200 houses of magic or talisam kadas in the city. And most are doing well, charging up to Rs 500 for the first of many sessions, which pretend to be solutions to everything from a broken heart to a bad career.
Many of those who come to Mr Razzaq, also known as Diwan Bawa, are coping with disease or financial crisis. Mr Razzaq says he only uses his knowledge of black magic to save people from evil, though he could make a lot more money if he acceded to the demands of the disgruntled and put curses and vexes on their perceived tormentors.
“Only 20 percent of the people who visit us do so for a positive purpose,” said Mr Razzaq. “The other 80 wish ill on others.” He said most of those claiming to have the gift of black magic actually do not. “Maybe one in every 100 people who claim to have it, do. The rest are charlatans in it for the money and to harass women.”
Akmal Raza Mir, a trained homeopathic, learned the art through his elder brothers. He runs an office on Ferozepur Road near Shama Chowk. “You have to be very skilful in manipulating the psychology of the target,” said Mr Mir. “The basic aim is to agitate him to such an extent that the required objective is achieved.”
Mr Mir puts curses on people through non-human agents known as moakals, whose services are acquired by reading scripture in a prescribed way.
It is not an easy job. “Catching a moakal takes three or four months and if not done properly, these moakals can turn against you,” he said. “To get the attention of a moakal, you chant mantras, to get him to do your bidding you must use perfume essence or blood, usually from an owl,” he said, adding that he did not use his powers to hurt others.
Mr Mir says specific information is required from his clients for the spell to be more effective. At a minimum, Mr Mir requires the name of the person who is to be vexed, his date and place of birth and, preferably, personal items of his. “The magic,” said Mr Mir, “affects the mind and cannot be detected by any medical gadgets.”
Syed Abdul Ahad, another practitioner of black magic, takes a dim view of some of his colleagues whose amulets can kill. “They write something on a piece of paper with poisoned ink and ask the client to put this in the drink of their tormentor,” said Mr Ahad, “the person will obviously die, there’s no magic here, just murder.”
Mr Ahad said black magic was a lucrative profession because it preyed on “ignorant and backward” women from rural climes. “Very few people have the gift,” he said. “All the rest are charlatans and tricksters duping the aggrieved.”
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-3-2004_pg7_20Oh, everything's too damned expensive these days. This Bible cost 15 bucks! And talk about a preachy book! Everybody's a sinner! Except this guy.
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Homer both the articles that u posted are informative and a bit scary really.
I personally have not witnessed any case of black magic Alhumdulillah but i do believe that it exists.
I do know a person who had his life ruined bcoz of someone(his mom thinks someone from her susral) casting some form of black magic on him.
May Allah keep us all safe from this form of evil ( Ameen)The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it
- May 2nd, 2005, 04:38 PM #10
Thank u homie for posting the reality in Xtricate detail...I have to hand it out to u, I needed a supportive document that can enlighten the evils that these pigs stoop to harm others...
May Allah protect every momin from this evil. AmeeN summa AmeeNI raced @200kph, crashed & survived. If you havent seen God, your not driving fast enough.
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I read about an incidence concerning black magic in yesterday's newspaper and thought of this thread by mal1k, so im posting what i read here.
Dr. Shah (a famous surgeon in Pakistan) has witnessed this and is said to have never seen anything like it in his lifetime, he has conducted more then 70,000 operations and this was his first chance to witness something like this.
He operated on a girl Shazia who had a needle in one of her fingers. A year back a needle got pierced in one of her fingers while sewing & she went to Civil Hospital to have it taken out, the doctors discovered that the needle seemed to have broken into 3 pieces and they could only take one of them out.
After a few months she got an infection in that finger and went to Jinah this time, they too could only take one piece out and this time her finger got crooked after the operation.
A month back she went to Dr. Shah and asked him to remove her finger as it was hurting a lot. Dr. Shah told her that he wont remove the finger but he will try his best to get it back to its normal shape. He took out the third piece and also operated on her finger to make it straight.
After a week he got a call from the girl saying she had pain in her finger so he called her back and when he did an xray he found that there was a needle in the finger again. He operated again and gave the needle to the mother of the girl.
After 3-4 days Shazia called again complaining of pain, he called her again and found that there was another needle in the finger. This time he operated in the presence of the girl's mother and showed her the xray before operation and gave her the needle, after the operation he again did an xray and saw that there were 2 needle in the finger this time.
The bandage was in place and this was immediately after the operation so no way she could have or anyone else could have put them in. As she had been operated a few hrs back he couldnt operate again the same day so he sent her back & called her the next day, operated and took both needles out.
He got a call again from Shazia after 2 days and this time when he did an Xray he found there were 3 needles now 2 in the finger and one between the finger and the thumb. The plaster from previous operation was in place. He operated againa nd took all 3 needles out.
When this incident was told to a maulvi whom Shazia goes to, she was told that someone who was jealous of her had casted a spell of black magic on her. On the day of the last operation she was told to read a few soorats etc and was told that the needles will not appear anymore.
The baba ji said that the timing for the previous operation wasnt right to break the spell and the last operation was done at the right time. Shazia is said to have seen people whom she thought she knew but couldnt see their faces clearly during the operations, she said they would come and press my wound making me feel pain and they also somtime pressed my throat making me suffocate.
She has not yet complained of the needles appearing again. In total Dr. Shah operated and removed 8 needles from her hand.
What do u guys think? can u think of anything scarier?? Allah sabko apni hifz-o-amaan main rukhay...AmeenThe trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it
- May 6th, 2005, 06:52 AM #13
I saw the operation recorded on GEO channel & it was quite horrific. Well this is just another form of sifli ****, but as long as there is the fear of Allah & the right aalims, all of this can be cured easily.I raced @200kph, crashed & survived. If you havent seen God, your not driving fast enough.
- May 6th, 2005, 01:31 PM #14----
Originally Posted by Mal1k
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Ur right as long as we have the right type of people and as long as we have faith in Allah we have a way to stay safe inshaAllah........i am frankly not too fond of peers and aalims as most of the time they seem to be fraud.The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it
- May 6th, 2005, 01:46 PM #15----
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- Nov 27, 2001
With reference to the Daily Time's article "Black magic casts its spell on the aggrieved", Black Magic cannot be used for a good cause. Anything associated with it is evil, even if it is actually intended for a good cause.
For those interested, there is an urdu novel being posted chapter wise on www.urdupoint.com. Its title is "Jinnaat ka Ghulam" and it is written by the famous journalist Shahid Nazeer Chaudhry. It is supposed to be a true account. I find it very interesting and to a great extent authentic as well.
- May 8th, 2005, 05:20 PM #16
Yea I did angel & her finger was totally disfigured, & they even showed the removal of three needles.I raced @200kph, crashed & survived. If you havent seen God, your not driving fast enough.
- May 8th, 2005, 11:14 PM #17
Stupidity knows knows bounds. You ppl dont look like educated. No wonder, Pakistan is in such a mess.
There is no damn thing like magic or black magic. The stupidity is in ur heads
- May 8th, 2005, 11:29 PM #18----
Originally Posted by lostsoul
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- Rehnay ko Ghar naheeN hai, PF jahaaN hamaaraa
2:102 They followed what the evil ones gave out (falsely) against the power of Solomon: the blasphemers Were, not Solomon, but the evil ones, teaching men Magic, and such things as came down at babylon to the angels Harut and Marut. But neither of these taught anyone (Such things) without saying: "We are only for trial; so do not blaspheme." They learned from them the means to sow discord between man and wife. But they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah's permission. And they learned what harmed them, not what profited them. And they knew that the buyers of (magic) would have no share in the happiness of the Hereafter. And vile was the price for which they did sell their souls, if they but knew!“Quite often good things have hurtful consequences. There are instances of men who have been ruined by their money or KILLED by their COURAGE.” ~Aristotle
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