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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 09:48 AM   #1
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Anti-Muslim racist embraces Islam
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London—David Myatt, a founder of the hardline British National Socialist Movement (NSM) who was jailed for racist attacks, has changed his name to Abdul Aziz ibn Myatt. David Copeland, who is serving six life sentences after three people died in his Soho bomb attacks, was a member of the NSM.
Myatt is reportedly the author of a fascist terrorist handbook and a former leader of the violent far-right group Combat 18. But now — in his mid-50s and sporting a red, bushy beard — he subscribes to Islam.
In an internet essay entitled From Neo-Nazi to Muslim’, Myatt asks: “How was it that I, a Westerner with a history of over 25 years of political involvement in extreme right-wing organisations, a former leader of the political wing of the neo-Nazi group Combat 18, came to be standing outside a mosque with a sincere desire to go inside and convert to Islam? “These were the people who I had been fighting on the streets, I had swore (sic) at and had used violence against — indeed, one of my terms of imprisonment was a result of me leading a gang of skinheads in a fight against ‘Pakis’.” :bash:
In a later interview, Myatt supports the killing of any Muslim who breaks his oath of loyalty to Islam, and the setting up of a Muslim superstate. He describes himself as having been “staunchly opposed to non-white immigration into Britain and twice jailed for violence in pursuit of my political aims”.
Myatt said recently that he had given up hope of a breakthrough by the far Right and believed that Muslims were the best hope for combating Zionism and the West. “There will not be an uprising, a revolution, in any Western nation, by nationalists, racial nationalists, or National Socialists — because these people lack the desire, the motivation, the ethos, to do this and because they do not have the support of even a large minority of their own folk,” he said.
“If these nationalists, or some of them, desire to aid us, to help us . . . they can do the right thing, the honourable thing, and convert, revert, to Islam — accepting the superiority of Islam over and above each and every way of the West.”:biggthumb

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Another victory for the true deen when once again a racist western crusader admits the inferiority of their own beliefs and submits to the superior beliefs of muslims. I always wonder which civilization we will destroy first, the crusader yurrupeens or the devious politically astute indians. The way this is going in another 100 years the chinese, indian and yurrupean civilization will be humbled at the feet of the ummah. Imagine a world from china to sri lanka to england where everyone practices the true deen, where no civilization exists but islamic. Truely such a world would be an utopia.







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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 09:58 AM   #2
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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 10:32 AM   #3
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Alhamdulilah...................Islam ............The Fastest Growing Religion of the West.






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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 12:19 PM   #4
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His views might still be a bit dodgy and he should try to change them but at least he will die a muslim







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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 12:48 PM   #5
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Does anyone find it the least bit bothersome that the views he espouses, which he has not changed, are encorporated in his new found faith? He has not changed his anti-semetic sloganeering. He has simply found a new venue for it. How is that a remarkable story? This man says he has found commanility in this beliefs in his new faith.
Doesn't that disturb anyone?






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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 12:50 PM   #6
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^ and how on earth did u find out that he has not changed????







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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 01:13 PM   #7
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^ and how on earth did u find out that he has not changed????
Did you read what he said?
Myatt said recently that he had given up hope of a breakthrough by the far Right and believed that Muslims were the best hope for combating Zionism







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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 01:29 PM   #8
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^^

Zionism, not just for Muslims but for many others is what terrorism is to the Americans...

But that aside, I know your mentality...For someone to become a Muslim, there must some negative thing in there...

If a manic depressive becomes a Muslim you would say he became one because he was manic depressive, not because he realized that Islam can help him...

If a thief, killer, rapist, murderer became a Muslim, to your narrow minded perception it would be because they were like that, that they became Muslims, not because in Islam they found that they could become better people...

It's not your fault...I have told you before...Feeble minds like yours are very easy to manipulate and you have been really well trained to think like you do...

Also perhaps you do not realize the number of doctors, educators, scientists and thinkers that have embraced Islam...That's because that's old news...

This is news because the guy was actually a Muslim hater...He was an enemy of the Muslims...And now he joins the same enemy...

But heck no, your Pavlovian indoctrination is too good...It is the rule of hypnotism...The simpler the mind, the easier to manipulate...







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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 01:45 PM   #9
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Zionism, not just for Muslims but for many others is what terrorism is to the Americans...
I suppose neo-nazis are fighting a form of terrorism then?






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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 01:57 PM   #10
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I suppose neo-nazis are fighting a form of terrorism then?
Neo Nazis are not fighting Zionism...They are a hate group who hate Jews...

Their purpose of hate is plain and simple hate based on difference of creed...

According to your indoctrination, Muslims are also haters and hate the west because its so nice and hate Jews beacause they are Jews e.t.c.

You cannot tell the difference because of two reasons:

1) Lack of proper knowledge about Islam, Muslims and their history...

2) Indoctrination by the media to think the way you do...

If you can overcome these two obstacles, no doubt, you'd go far in understanding Muslims and Islam...

But you will not go far becasue ignorance is bliss and it's easier to hate Muslims based on indoctrination than reading about Islam or Muslims from one's own perspective...






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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 02:02 PM   #11
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Does anyone find it the least bit bothersome that the views he espouses, which he has not changed, are encorporated in his new found faith? He has not changed his anti-semetic sloganeering. He has simply found a new venue for it. How is that a remarkable story? This man says he has found commanility in this beliefs in his new faith.
Doesn't that disturb anyone?
I found it a little disturbing. It would be different if embracing the faith was part of him changing his views, becoming accepting, humble, etc. While I can not gauge his intentions, his words in the interview do make it sound like its the same views different garb. I do not see him being part of a constructive peaceful muslim community, I see him being sttracted to our extremists. I hope I am wrong and that is not the case.







The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that... he is gone.
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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 02:06 PM   #12
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Neo Nazis are not fighting Zionism...They are a hate group who hate Jews...

Their purpose of hate is plain and simple hate based on difference of creed...

According to your indoctrination, Muslims are also haters and hate the west because its so nice and hate Jews beacause they are Jews e.t.c.

You cannot tell the difference because of two reasons:

1) Lack of proper knowledge about Islam, Muslims and their history...

2) Indoctrination by the media to think the way you do...

If you can overcome these two obstacles, no doubt, you'd go far in understanding Muslims and Islam...

But you will not go far becasue ignorance is bliss and it's easier to hate Muslims based on indoctrination than reading about Islam or Muslims from one's own perspective...

Hmm, so this guy is just misunderstood, along with the leader of Iran, the former prime minister of malaysia, Hezbollah, Hamas, Qazi Hussein, Fazal Ur Rehaman, and the rest of the Muslim leaders.
When the originator of this thread writes: I always wonder which civilization we will destroy first
He is just misunderstood.
When the new convert says :Myatt said recently that he had given up hope of a breakthrough by the far Right and believed that Muslims were the best hope for combating Zionism and the West. “There will not be an uprising, a revolution, in any Western nation, by nationalists, racial nationalists, or National Socialists — because these people lack the desire, the motivation, the ethos, to do this and because they do not have the support of even a large minority of their own folk,” he said.
“If these nationalists, or some of them, desire to aid us, to help us . . . they can do the right thing, the honourable thing, and convert, revert, to Islam — accepting the superiority of Islam over and above each and every way of the West.”

He is simply misunderstood. It the media brainwashing me into thinking he has peaceful motives.






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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 02:29 PM   #13
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i completely agree with fraudia bhais views here.
this new convert guy is not up to any good. he was a racist, extremist, hater and remains so. all he has done here is that he has changed his gang. before he was with the white supremacists...now he's most probably gonna join the muslim extremist groups and go around blowing things up.
when people convert in jails, it must be taken with a grain of salt cos man is in a very unique depressed state of mind while in a jail.
jab insaan gham mein doobta hai, sabse pehle woh nasha karta hai.
when a man is depressed he does drugs.
this guy has most probably met up with a few extremists in jail and converted.
this conversion has little to be rejoiced about and more to be disturbed over.
its even more shocking that a few guppies are rejoicing over this. its a clear mark of immaturity on their part.
its like rejoicing over the sound of coins in ur wallet never mind that the latest coin is a khotta sikka.







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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 02:33 PM   #14
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Hmm, so this guy is just misunderstood, along with the leader of Iran, the former prime minister of malaysia, Hezbollah, Hamas, Qazi Hussein, Fazal Ur Rehaman, and the rest of the Muslim leaders.
When the originator of this thread writes: I always wonder which civilization we will destroy first
He is just misunderstood.
When the new convert says :Myatt said recently that he had given up hope of a breakthrough by the far Right and believed that Muslims were the best hope for combating Zionism and the West. “There will not be an uprising, a revolution, in any Western nation, by nationalists, racial nationalists, or National Socialists — because these people lack the desire, the motivation, the ethos, to do this and because they do not have the support of even a large minority of their own folk,” he said.
“If these nationalists, or some of them, desire to aid us, to help us . . . they can do the right thing, the honourable thing, and convert, revert, to Islam — accepting the superiority of Islam over and above each and every way of the West.”

He is simply misunderstood. It the media brainwashing me into thinking he has peaceful motives.
Yes...The media is brainwashing you...

The media is hiding history from you...The history holds in its dark past the true western ideals in which more than billions of people have died for greed...Millions die today for no reason...

Who will stop this madness? Who will stop another British Raj taking over India and enslaving its people? Who will stand up for less developed nations...Who will protect and guarantee that what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam doesnt happen again...

You? Your government?

Saddam was a great friend of the US...The US turned on him like a rabid dog and destroyed his nation along with him...

There has to someone to check this growing barbarity in the name of civilization...Who's gonna stop it?






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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 02:47 PM   #15
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lajawab bhai,
from a third persons standpoint, it appears like you are simply ranting and shooting off in tangents.
i dunno the background of this NIS guy or his previous posts or whether he's a troll but right now he's got a valid point.






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lajawab bhai,
from a third persons standpoint, it appears like you are simply ranting and shooting off in tangents.
i dunno the background of this NIS guy or his previous posts or whether he's a troll but right now he's got a valid point.
No rants Naved...Call it venting...

When people close their eyes to the barbarity of what's happened and is happening perpetrated by the wetsern nations for centuries and suddenly declare that Islam and Muslims are violent, that just burns me up...

I mean, how ignorant must a person be not to know what happened thourhgout history by the western powers...

And then to come in my face and declare Islam as a violent religion...






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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 03:43 PM   #17
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No rants Naved...Call it venting...

When people close their eyes to the barbarity of what's happened and is happening perpetrated by the wetsern nations for centuries and suddenly declare that Islam and Muslims are violent, that just burns me up...

I mean, how ignorant must a person be not to know what happened thourhgout history by the western powers...

And then to come in my face and declare Islam as a violent religion...

The blatant hostility in the interview and the originator of the thread called for just a bit of introspection. This is the reason why people, not just the "west", have an image of Islam being quite hostile. This man, who was an adimitted neo-nazi, espouses the same views now and says he finds commonality in his new found faith. Does that offend anyone? Is this man hijacking his new found faith?






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............. Is this man hijacking his new found faith?
What is your answer to this question?






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Old Apr 25th, 2006, 10:49 PM   #19
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How is this man different than gang bangers who become "muslim" when they land in jails but are up to their same tricks?

I am willing to give the person the benefit of doubt but his own words scream that something is not quite right here.






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It's not your fault...I have told you before...Feeble minds like yours are very easy to manipulate and you have been really well trained to think like you do...

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Did you actually write these words? What happened to respecting others...?






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