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      Mr/Ms SKV Anand,

      whats your point in bringing up invention of J.Krishnamurti by West? as well as satanic sect? if you have information why don't you put it up?

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      'No matter how many times you teach a donkey, it will never learn'.

      'Stubborn as a Mule'.

      'Dumb as an Ass'.

      'Thick as 2 planks of wood'.

      I'm sure you get my drift.

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      Originally posted by sholay:

      'No matter how many times you teach a donkey, it will never learn'.

      'Stubborn as a Mule'.

      'Dumb as an Ass'.

      'Thick as 2 planks of wood'.

      I'm sure you get my drift.
      Sholay: these are exactly my sentiments...for your vehement belief that Vedas came from Gita.


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      of these three books, i like bible. it has some good stories. thus a good entertainment. quran is pretty repetetive and gita is boring. of course, i must mention that i like 'alice in wonderland' more than these three books.

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      Dear Changez,

      If I correctly understand you, I have to say some words, what is a sect, a satanic sect.

      In a sect it takes fifteen days to three months for human mind to give up, I mean surrender, provided the pupil accept the superiority of the teacher, Guru.

      These Gurus boast of some or other kind of revelation, mostly they believe in it and further attract gentry who is always in a mood to encounter god.
      In a satanic sect pupils go so far that they are ready to kill any one or commit suicide at the whip of the teacher. Mass suicidal spectacles are also conducted.

      The new comer and the old pupils usually perform some or other kind of rituals, murmur some words,
      some physical exercises are conducted, dance and sometimes even one has to move head to and fro and all stress is on repetition. Ultimately the mind has to give up.

      Pls compare all this to Islam, where this pattern starts at madarsa.

      Rgds

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      In a satanic sect, people tend to believe that God was the incarnate of Man, who left the Universe to operate with a Deputy whilst he was away on a mission to Earth or Mars.

      Then the Deputy will ultimately double cross and take over the reigns of power while the Leader was away!

      Totalling 11 incarnates in your case, with Ghandi being the last.

      I think that sounds about right.

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      Ok, this one is for Kumar,

      Can you please translate in english the quote from the Bhavishya Puran, in the following section.

      Prati Sarg III: 3, 3. 5-8. also

      Shalokas 10-27, also

      The First Mantra in the Kuntap Sukt, also

      Atharva Veda XX:21,6

      Can you also please confirm if the flesh and milk of a camel is forbidden for an Indian Rishi, in line with the laws of Dharma Shastara. Manu, V: 8,18 and Manu, XI: 201.

      What is your opinion on the Kuntup Sakt. Are they riddles and un-intelligible enigmas or do they actually form part of the Atharva Veda?

      I think this is enough for now.

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      Bhagwat Geeta, the famous book is a part of another famous book Mahabharat. According to some historrians, Mahabharat was written in about 400BC. Origanally there were about 20000 ashloks in this book. Additions were frequently made by different authors in a period of about 500 years. Today, due to these additions, there are about 100000 ashloks in this book.

      Bhagwat Geeta is the most famous part of this book. Through previous discussion it is quite clear that BHAGWAT GEETA IS NOT ILHAAMI BOOK.

      Bhagwat Geeta has presented the concept & phillosophy of soul in details in an interesting way.

      More emphises is on the point that SOUL WAS NEVER CREATED AND SHALL NEVER BE DESTROYED.


      NOW AS IT IS ALREADY BEEN POINTED OUT BY THE HONOURABLE PERSONS THAT QURAN IS AN ILHAMI BOOK AND IS 100% ORIGINAL.

      QURAN ALSO DISSCUSSES ABOUT SOUL BUT QURAN's POINT OF VIEW IS DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF BHAGWAT GEETA.

      The idea that Soul was never created is wrong according to Quran because according to Quran, soul is the creature of GOD.

      Qul Ruhe min Amre Rubbi (Al-Quran)

      So there is no simmilarity in teachings of Quran and that of Bhagwat Geeta.

      Quran's point of view has more importance because Quran is 100% original and most perfact ILLHAMI BOOK.

      However Bhagwat Geeta discusses about soul in greater details but every one should note that Greek Phillosophers have also discussed about it in details and also in interesting way. But it is just the phillosophy of mankind. CAN'T BE COMPARED WITH GOD's OWN MESSAGE.



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      Originally posted by babar123:
      Quran's point of view has more importance because Quran is 100% original and most perfact ILLHAMI BOOK.

      my question remains. what is 'ilhami book'? is 'Alice in wonderland' (which, in my opinion is a better book than three being discussed, ) a ilhaami book. what should i do to write an ilhaami book?

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      I think you should stick to Alice in Wonderland, as she'll guide you through your real world.

      Come to think of it, you may as well read Winnie The Pooh. I'm sure you'll get all your historical facts, answers to life and the Laws of the Land from dear Winnie.


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      Dear Sholay,

      Do you really believe in revelation?

      Revelation declaring frauds are everywhere and this world may become a heaven if all of them are true.
      I don’t need to argue yours blindness.

      Rgds

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      Comments on my answer by a senior member:

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      my question remains. what is 'ilhami book'? is 'Alice in wonderland' (which, in my opinion is a better book than three being discussed, ) a ilhaami book. what should i do to write an ilhaami book?

      ..................................

      Well Mr.,

      Quran itself claims to be a ILLHAMI BOOK. Quran itself has promissed that it would remain 100% original for ever. If any one is in doubt QURAN ITSELF HAS CHALLENGED all those who are in doubt to write or show a single Verse like its.

      NOTE THAT NO OTHER BOOK ITSELF CLAIMS LIKE THAT.

      It is only the followers of these Books who claim that their respective Books are Illhami.

      But their such claims have no importance because they cannot show proofs of these claims from within their respective Books.


      Well, You can try to write an Illhami Book BUT ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND THE ABOVE MENTIONED CHALLENGE OF QURAN WHICH IS STILL AN UNBEATABLE CHALLENGE AFTER 1400 Years.

      SO QURAN IS THE BEST BOOK.

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      Dear zz: are you familiar with "Urdu"? 'Ilhaami' means revealed by GOD. no human being can be an author of 'ilhaami' book. if you enjoy reading 'alice in wonderland', keep reading it but that doesn't mean that "Quran" is not 'ilhaami' book.

      anand: prophets did receive revelations, and I am a firm beleiver. there are several occasions where our Prophet was revealed what his conspirer discussed. and when those conspirers came to know that Prophet already knows about their discussion (God revealed their discussion to the Prophet PBUH) they beleived that he really is a prophet of God and accepted Islam as THE religion and oneness of God.

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      Originally posted by skv anand:
      Dear Changez,

      If I correctly understand you, I have to say some words, what is a sect, a satanic sect.

      In a sect it takes fifteen days to three months for human mind to give up, I mean surrender, provided the pupil accept the superiority of the teacher, Guru.

      These Gurus boast of some or other kind of revelation, mostly they believe in it and further attract gentry who is always in a mood to encounter god.
      In a satanic sect pupils go so far that they are ready to kill any one or commit suicide at the whip of the teacher. Mass suicidal spectacles are also conducted.

      The new comer and the old pupils usually perform some or other kind of rituals, murmur some words,
      some physical exercises are conducted, dance and sometimes even one has to move head to and fro and all stress is on repetition. Ultimately the mind has to give up.

      Pls compare all this to Islam, where this pattern starts at madarsa.

      Rgds
      you don't know a crap about what happens in madrassah, do you? http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif hehehehe
      upto this point, i really thought that you are some "scholar" who studies different religions and you also studied Islam. but this message of yours shows how pathetic your knowledge and sources of knowledge are.
      in madrassah, "pupil" mostly learn how to read as well as memorize "Quran" (the words of GOD), not murmur any words or songs presented in Gita or other rhymic books composed by human beings.
      there is no discussion of "take over" the power of GOD. we know thru Quran who GOD is, what are HIS powers. you will see GOD thru your bible/GITA etc, and have your own perceptions.

      you (or someone else) said that we will know about a lord in 10-11 years, tell us something about it what he is going to do and what his status is in your religion.

      [This message has been edited by Changez_like (edited May 29, 2001).]

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      Originally posted by ajit_kumar:
      can anyone of you tell me some of the differences
      which you know.with my limited understanding of GITA and QURAN,i see nothing but same in both the BOOKS.can you please tell me about some of the differences.(.
      Ajit,

      The big difference between the Quran and the bible/gita is that the latter two make associations with the creator, whilst the former states that only the creator is to be worshiped. That is the difference between these books, and that is the reason why I am neither a Hindu or a Christain.


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      My dear Changez,

      Why you are annoyed? Here Islam differs. You may make some irregular remark to a Hindu, Christian, Jew or a Buddhist; he will either ignore it or cooperate with you and enjoy it.

      Unknowingly you have confirmed the sect theory thru pattern at Madarasa. When you compel a child to learn something by heart and compel him to go thru repetitions, the outcome person will be no more than a blind devoted to the cause.
      I have noticed how these children move head to and fro.

      Prophet every time new the conspiracy and conspirators, informed by angels. It is an information for you that all self styled teachers, Gurus spread such rumors around them.

      You have all reasons to believe Quran. I don’t need to argue.
      Hidus boast that whatever is written in Mahabharata can be found in any of other books, but what is not written in this epic, cannot be found in any book of the world.
      Fight them!

      Rgds


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      Originally posted by Alpha1:
      Ajit,

      The big difference between the Quran and the bible/gita is that the latter two make associations with the creator, whilst the former states that only the creator is to be worshiped. That is the difference between these books, and that is the reason why I am neither a Hindu or a Christain.

      Not exactly, in gita, lord krishna gives advice to Arjuna. So u could say that statements of krishna are words by god if u believe that he was god's incarnation.

      key word is belief. none of these old books is concrete and clear unlike, say, maxwell's laws of electrodynamics which are true whether or not u belive them.


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      SKV ANAND

      Will you be kind enough to clarify, who actually compiled the Maha Bharat and also what was his greatest work.

      By the way, how did you learn to read, write, walk, talk and eat. It surely couldn't be by repeating these actions.

      Maybe it was a revelation!

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