A bleeper on Ahimdiya site?

Sultan Suri · Apr 20th, 2004, 09:21 PM

Something I saw when I hit the site:

*note: look for the highlight part

click above

Faisal · Apr 20th, 2004, 09:27 PM

What is a "bleeper"? Is it the same as a "blooper"?

In any case, you need to provide some more guidance as to what exactly you wish to discuss here. Just highlighting the word "Seal" does not tell us much.

Thanks and Jazak Allah.

little human · Apr 20th, 2004, 11:24 PM

That's a ayat from Quran right?

Sultan Suri · Apr 20th, 2004, 11:34 PM

Ya it is...well I wanted to know what do Ahmedis believe when it comes to the seal topic?

1010 · Apr 21st, 2004, 12:15 AM

It was not a mistake. Qadianis have given the word "seal" a new interpretation. Instead of considering it a "seal" to close a letter, they call it a "seal" (thappa) to affirm the coming of a new prophet. Hence to them, Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is a SEAL to affirm MGA's prophethood (naoozobillah).

little human · Apr 21st, 2004, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1010:
It was not a mistake. Qadianis have given the word "seal" a new interpretation. Instead of considering it a "seal" to close a letter, they call it a "seal" (thappa) to affirm the coming of a new prophet. Hence to them, Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is a SEAL to affirm MGA's prophethood (naoozobillah).

I still don't get it

fatehahmad · Apr 21st, 2004, 12:28 PM

Assalam O Alaikum,

Majority of the muslims belive that word Khattam or seal means that no prophet can come after the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him).

Ahmadi Muslims believe that word seal means that a new prophet can come after the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) but he has to have the sea of approval from the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) meaning that the new prophet can't bring a new law or shariat or abolish any of the laws brought by Holy Prophet (peace be upon him). The new prophet has to follow Holy Quran and Holy Prophet (peace be upon him).

M · Apr 21st, 2004, 01:26 PM

This was 'discussed' recently In this thread

They have a different meaning for 'seal'.

suroor_ca02 · Apr 21st, 2004, 02:02 PM

what's sad is that u actually spent time to find that blooper in the site.

MiniMe · Apr 21st, 2004, 02:24 PM

Its better than finding pago pago.

Sultan Suri · Apr 21st, 2004, 03:15 PM

No I dont have the time like you do dear. I got the link in an email, as soon as I hit the site it popped up on their front page...thats what caused me to post it here in the first place...what fun is it when you have to "look" for a blooper

Quote:

Originally posted by suroor_ca02:
what's sad is that u actually spent time to find that blooper in the site.

Diva4U · Apr 21st, 2004, 03:48 PM

Sultan Suri -:

This thread is totally pointless..And if you actually want to learn more then I would advise you to review the site yourself.

It seems like you have no "real" point for starting this thread anyways.

1010 · Apr 21st, 2004, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatehahmad:
Ahmadi Muslims believe that

Qadianis can believe whatever they want to. It's just that they are NOT Muslims.

fatehahmad · Apr 21st, 2004, 05:34 PM

Ahmadi Muslims also don't care what Mr. 1010 have to say

1010 · Apr 21st, 2004, 06:12 PM

Except that Qadianis are not Muslims.

Diva4U · Apr 21st, 2004, 11:00 PM

1010 :-

Muslims are not even complete muslims, then what right have you to say qadiyanis are not muslims. Who are you to judge ?

A Guppie · Apr 21st, 2004, 11:10 PM

Do Qadiyanis consider Non-Ahmadis as non-mulsims?
And I am talking about the Ahmedis' scholars' point of views not any personal view of any ahmedi.

thank you very much.

1010 · Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Diva4U:
1010 :-

Muslims are not even complete muslims, then what right have you to say qadiyanis are not muslims. Who are you to judge ?

Muslims have all the necessary beliefs which make them Muslim.
Who is a better judge of being Muslim? Muslims themselves or Diva4U?

1010 · Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by A Guppie:
Do Qadiyanis consider Non-Ahmadis as non-mulsims?
And I am talking about the Ahmedis' scholars' point of views not any personal view of any ahmedi.

thank you very much.

It's an interesting question:

- It does not matter what Qadianis think about Muslims. Anyone who renegades against Islamic beliefs is kafir for Muslims. There is 100% consensus of ALL Muslims over it.
- In the beginning, Qadianis including the founder MGA and their caliphs, considered non-Qadianis to be kafirs. Later when the resistence against them started building up, they changed this fatwa of their own founder and caliphs.
- Still there are Qadiani scholars who consider non-Qadianis to be kafir.
- Former Foreign Minister Chowdhury Zafar was Qadiani. He also considered non-Qadianis to be kafir, as reported by Qudratullah Shahab in 'Shahab-nama'.

Diva4U · Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:40 AM

Quoted by 1010..

"There is 100% consensus of ALL Muslims over it."

What about the 100% concensus of Allah ? Let HIM deal with the "muslims" and "non-muslims" of this world. You are of no concequence to judge.

Once again, there have been previous threads on the same topic, no need to go in circles, again and again...its pointless.