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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 01:01 AM   #1 (permalink)  
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I wanted to know what the religious significance is of the following:
(if its just cultural nonsense or there is some religious basis to it).

1. People under jadoo (the victims) will smell disturbing odors when no one else can smell them. Often victims report odors of urine or excretion, or garbage, or dead human flesh.







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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 01:47 AM   #2 (permalink)  
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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 02:07 AM   #3 (permalink)  
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the victims do experience lots of problems and people really cant figure out what is wrong with them.

This may be true but needs confirmation from some who has passes through this phase.

the most sad part is that our society is full of such bad people who make others life misrible just becuz of their own lusts and gains and even some time just for nothing.






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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 04:32 AM   #4 (permalink)  
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Hmmm, interesting.

Any source?

Actually I know someone like this and I just tell them "tere demaagh meiN se badbu aa rahi ho gi", I thought it was a mental disorder.






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Old Jan 12th, 2005, 01:23 AM   #5 (permalink)  
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wow is this true???







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Old Jan 12th, 2005, 08:55 AM   #6 (permalink)  
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No honey this is nonsense, but the victims do see blood & bad nightmares. Although aalims can see a lot more than just blood.







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^ oh do spill all the details. What do aalims see?






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Old Jan 14th, 2005, 07:24 AM   #8 (permalink)  
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I dont know whether the question means Jadoo is a reality or just a myth? Well it is reality as per Quran! isn't it.






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Quote:
Originally Posted by PyariCgudia
^ oh do spill all the details. What do aalims see?
gimme some time, I have a fever for a couple of days, I'll tell u everything






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Old Jan 20th, 2005, 12:30 AM   #10 (permalink)  
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bumped up. mal1k, i'm waiting.






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Old Jan 20th, 2005, 10:15 PM   #11 (permalink)  
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any one really know why there is a connection with magic and blood and flesh?







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Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 12:06 AM   #12 (permalink)  
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I don't know really. Lately loads of disasters have been happening to us, and prior to all of these disasters happening, I was smelling human urine outside in front of our house, and my parents swore they never smelled a thing. And the stench was so strong too.

:-(

I don't like this jadoo stuff one bit.






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PCG , you crack me up..........sowwy but i doubt there is connection, but you never know.






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Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 10:02 AM   #14 (permalink)  
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Dude, i'm telling you its weird. There's actually more to the story...but I'm waiting for mal1k's input. mal1k!!!






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Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 12:02 PM   #15 (permalink)  
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Ooops, sorry missed.

I was sick & there was black s*** going on in my place too. Anyway see its like this. A normal person is subjected to intense fear. Sifli jaadoo is what its known as, the most dangerous form & the most effective. All it does is make the heart of the victim very very very very weak, & after a few months, even the slightest tragedy will render him/her useless, what I mean to say is...either a severe heart attack with a coma or paralysis, or just death.

This happened with a cousin's mother. She used to see blood & "spirits" roam freely wherever she lived. She died of a heart attack. It was a long time back.

A normal being like u or me, will see blood, or dead animals at the most. Raw flesh will be rare, because it uses a lot of "energy" when the magician performs his voodoo s***.

I know u will be always asked by regulars to read ayat al kursi...but here is the deal. What does Ayat Al Kursi really do? It is commanded that an angel will guard that angle from dusk till dawn, if read with best intentions. Ayat Al Kursi is the most powerful Ayat, & coupled with the 4 Qul Surah's in their correct order, makes it invincible. Keep this very clear & concise that Allah's Ayat's are a lot more powerful than sifli s*** or any other forms of s***. I consider black magic s*** because it causes nothing but mental & physical harm unecessarily. You are subjected to pain & high levels of torture. The intense pressure gets to ur brain & u start "seeing" things. These things are always related to blood.

Start by giving ur house a farzi ghusl, then try and get a grip of an aalim who does not charge u a dime & can instantly tell u where the "taaweez" is buried. Im sure it must be in ur house. Yes there is a taaweez, because with ur descriptions, someone from ur family doesnt like u or ur family member or probably even ur success. Hence the attack. Yes its always a member of the bloody family who can do this. If the aalim is really good, he wont even touch that spot & the "taaweez" will emerge automatically. You will manage to believe it when u see it with ur own eyes. If u ever get hold of a "taaweez" accidentally while cleaning the house, then recite Ayat Al Kursi, while holding it in ur hand & throw it out into the open sea or river. DONT burn it or throw it in the gutter, it will cause more harm.

Aalims can actually see the entire process. They can see who the particular evil jinn is who is throwing blood in ur house or causing mischief. He can even do this without actually being present in the house itself. Let me clarify a very highly qualified aalim here. He is a devout Muslim, who prays every single prayer, even the tahajjud...etc. He cannot be easily scared, & he does not indulge in black magic himself, nor does he use the method of calling other jinns to help him out. All he does is use Allah's words from the Holy Quran & sometimes even use Zam Zam. Aalims can even see the "taaweez" & where its hidden or buried inside the house. They will always be reluctant in showing u the evil behind it, because we wont be able to witness the actual account. It will be really horrific.

I suggest u get hold of an aalim, if u were in my city(Pak or Dubai), I would have helped u easy in finding the right aalim. Get ur house Xterminated immediately. Dont worry about the intensity of the stench. Its just plain pressure or distraction, clean ur house (farzi ghusl if possible), during Maghrib time light some incandescents, & every Friday before Juma prayers, use "hulmul" I dont know what is it called in English, but if someone can translate it, it will be helpful. "Hulmul" are similar to unground black pepper, & when burnt, causes smoke to rise, & rids the entire house of evil...! I wish I could translate it in English.

If there is anything else u would like to know, please feel free to ask. Apologies for the delay.






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Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 12:03 PM   #16 (permalink)  
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Give me more details & I'll help u further






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Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 12:14 PM   #17 (permalink)  
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It's not in my house, its in my grandparents' house in Pakistan. I don't know how the effect is coming onto us, though? We live on an entirely different continent.

My grandmother has employed similar aalims who are picking up on the vibe as well and in fact those aalims told our family that if you're being affected by it, you'll hear and see and smell weird things.

So, basically, in my grandmother's house - she and her daughter are hearing screaming sounds all the time coming from sometimes right outside the house, sometimes from downstairs (where the supposed jadoogarni lives) and sometimes from within the home.

Other things have happened, but I don't wish to divulge those details on a public board.

Basically, I just wanted to know if these aalims' claims are Islamically sound or is there some Hindu mysticism wrapped up in the their methods.






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What is sifli?






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Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 12:58 PM   #19 (permalink)  
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Yes sometimes, there are people who claim to be aalims, but they use hinduistic rituals to get rid of s***. Let me recollect an incident with my dad that happened with him. Grand dad had a huge 30-40 room mansion, which they had sold, & moved to another mansion, back in the 60s. Dad wanted to spend some quality days alone in that mansion just for his personal satisfaction. One night he was woken up with a heavy feeling on his chest, & rapid slapping to his face. A Holy jinn was slapping him & questioning him "Will u read that wazeefah again?" - of course in Urdu, dad couldnt reply, & after a few minutes, dad said yes. Apparently that wazeefah was given by a hindu.

The reason why I related this incident is to clarify your doubts on this issue. Yes there are hinduistic rituals too.

Let me clarify another thing, you live across a sea, so black magic does not effect u in anyway, unless if u have travelled to Pakistan recently & brought along some taaweez accidentally, or if someone related to that magician has brought some "infected" food or sweets for u people.

I would like to know how do u know that magician is someone who lives under your house, & why does she live under ur grandparent's house, is it a building or a villa...?

In Pakistan, there are many aalims, but only the best can be found by searching them through reliable sources. They DONT take any cash or plastic. They do it in the name of Allah.

Sifli is a form of black magic of the highest calibre, which is often very fatal. Like I said, its used to make the heart weak.






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Old Jan 23rd, 2005, 01:08 PM   #20 (permalink)  
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Simple - she's the wife of my grandfather's brother. There is a big age difference between teh grandfather and his brother since they are both from different moms. His wife was brought in from some shady village in India - they don't even know who raised her, except that it wasn't her mother - her mother sent her off to the village - its somewhat of a mystery, where she was brought up.

Anyway, I think my family is going to some aalim right now. But supposedly she keeps hitting again and again.

Eh who knows, really. Sometimes I wonder how much to really believe it.






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