I have this habit of pondering over the stories and stuff told in holy quran. I find them fascinating and intriguing.
I think there is mankind ; and there are other kinds and some of them very kind to us. And some of them not so kind. Most of them are reffered in holy quran.
Hazrat Suleman in holy quran (prophet/king solomon in bible ) was given extra ordinary power and control over various creature, he could talk and understand birds and animals and he had control over winds and stuff.
I deduce that he was a superman. He cam from some other planet , like krypton and because he was not a native of this planet he had so many super powers and control over the creatures of this planet.
I beleive time travel and inter planetory journeys took place very frequently in the past and it is mentioned in holy quran in number of places.
The reference of a holy man Khizar in sura kahaf and the journey with Hazrat Musa. I think this holy man ( who is refered in some other tales ) and reported to have met some important personalities in history. It seems that Hazrat Khizar is an inter-galactic frequent traveler. Time , apparently is pretty much in his control. All the powers and control are bestowed by Allah Almightly, obviously.
I have more elaborat theroies, but people with orthrodox beliefs will not appreciate them much
Ik fursat-e-gunah mili wo bhi chaar din
dekhey hian hum ney hosley, parwardigar ke !
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"A State divided into a small number of rich and a large number of poor will always develop a government manipulated by the rich to protect the amenities represented by their property."
suleyman (as) was a human being sent as a messenger to fellow human beings....
dont turn authentic Quranic narrations into fiction....
Both Halal & Haram r evident but between them r doubtful things, most ppl have no knowledge about them. So whoever saves himself from suspicious things saves his religion & honor, & whoever indulges in suspicious things indulges in Haram.
I am not kidding. You read quran and you come across numerious accounts where you can sense that Allah is telling you something but you are not paying heed.
Can you deny that As'haab-e-kahaf experienced time travel >? Is that fiction too ?
Hazrat Suleman had extra-ordinary powers , which no other prophet posseessed Should this be a fairy tale or there is an explanation for it. My explaination makes perfect sense
Holy quran tells us many stories where 'Some men' came to various prophet and foretold him about future event / catastrophies. They are generally considered as angels in the form of humans. But most of them were not 'angel'. They were people from other planets and galaxies. Some time they came for experiments and brought good news and other time they brought destruction.
You people must be thinking that i am insane. Quran has clearly told about the creatures present in the universe just like they are on earth. The earlier you realize, the better
Quran 31:6 And of mankind is he who payeth for mere pastime of discourse, that he may mislead from Allah's way without knowledge, and maketh it the butt of mockery. For such there is a shameful doom.
Hazrat Suleman in holy quran (prophet/king solomon in bible ) was given extra ordinary power and control over various creature, he could talk and understand birds and animals and he had control over winds and stuff.
I deduce that he was a superman. He cam from some other planet , like krypton and because he was not a native of this planet he had so many super powers and control over the creatures of this planet.
He was a prophet. You are denying Quran by declaring such non-sense. Allah raises Prophets and Apostles from among the people themselves.
The theory that you have presented says that "because" he was not a native of this planet, "[therefore]" ....
That shows the limitedness of your argument. You declare that Allah can not create a person with such powers on this planet and He had to bring the prophet from other planet... Ma'az Allah!
Hazrat Suleman (AS) was the actual son of Hazrat Dawood (AS). Quran is very much categorical in that statement and anything otherwise is denying of Quran for sure.
Code_Red needs to be stoned, with sharp crystals. Maybe the guppy with the perfect beliefs can cast the first crystal?
I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
- Robert McCloskey
Get a brain. If Quran says something and the other person denies it and brings his own belief, he is essentially denying Quran in plain english.
AND in plain English, I said please connect the dots further....Like Denial of Quran = HARAM and HARAM = Going to Hell or fatwa and what not.......I hope now you know where I was getting at in plain english ! Cheers !!
The Prophet(SAW) said:
"I am leaving you two things and you will never go astray as long as you cling to them -- they are the Book of Allah and my Sunnah." [Reported by Al- Haakim - Sahih].
He was a prophet. You are denying Quran by declaring such non-sense. Allah raises Prophets and Apostles from among the people themselves.
The theory that you have presented says that "because" he was not a native of this planet, "[therefore]" ....
That shows the limitedness of your argument. You declare that Allah can not create a person with such powers on this planet and He had to bring the prophet from other planet... Ma'az Allah!
No. It is just the limited abiliity of birdy brains out there to decipher the idea that Allah Almighty has not created the galaxies and billions of stars and solar system just for stupid mankind...
As they read the opening verse of holy quran as ' Alhamdullilah e Rab'il Aalameen ' but limit its meaning in their mind to 'Alhamudlillah e RAB'il Arz'
Who are we to challenge the abilitiy of God in making creature smarter than us, far more advanced and probably more obedient to Allah Almighty than we can ever be ?
Frankly, it is redundant in holy quran Allah has mentioned creature outside the realm of this earth.
I am here to offer some fodder for thought , i.e Ghayaan ka chaara
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Hazrat Suleman (AS) was the actual son of Hazrat Dawood (AS). Quran is very much categorical in that statement and anything otherwise is denying of Quran for sure.
Did I deny this ?
I have elaborate view on other prophetic stories , with reference from holy quran. I will share them later, inshallah
Aha, finally someone, who has taken The Red Pill. Now codey! go find the truth. Its out there.
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Good Question
If there are subtle hints and pointer available then why not join the dots ( as you said yourself )
In old ages magician used to show events of past and far flung places on magic crystal ball. and people believed it was magic.
Now we see the same thing on our tv sets, but we dont consider it magic, because it makes sense to us
People with limited exposure, knowledge and understanding can still see the television set as magic crystal ball.
tumhein roza lag raha hai mere dost? interesting thread I will wait a bit more before commenting, at least when it will start making sense, too much interference for the time being.
To repeat what others have said, requires education, to challenge it, requires brains. - Mary Pettibone Poole
code_red this jibberish sounds like a cheap rip off harry potter or sumthing
absolute fiction
just cuz its your 'belief' doesnt mean its not fiction
stay off the shroomz son
^ I believe that. But i also believe that we must not restrict Allah's canvas.
I have the following understanding of prophet Jesus's (pbuh) life story.
The story of his birth is mentioned in Sura Mariyam. Here is my take on this :
When Hazrat Mariyam went to distanct place, She encountered a member of some advanced civilization, who was visiting earth at that time. He infused an embryo in her body without getting into any form of physical contact with her. Most probably he did due to direct intution from God Almighty.
The boy started talking to people , as he was built on a different DNA model , which was far more advanced than human model. The child recieved intution from God Almighty as well as the species he belonged to. The civilization which he belonged was very pious and very technically far more advanced than mankind at that time.
The boy when grew up, turned out to be God fearing fellow. Started preching people of his surrounding with good charachter and love and compassion.
Those missing years of life about which there is no record available, he might have visited his native land and people ... and learned to heal nasty ilnesses, whether spritual or physical. He treated mankind after returning back to earth. He gathered followers, taught them wisdom and good manner. Jews/roman tried prosecute him, unjustly
He was beamed back to his native planet and lived (or is living) rest of his life there
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