jaanaan

this thread reminded me about Haroon Yahya. to tell you the truth i have not read much from the guy. but in one of the public forums a guy forwarded his idea about dreams. in a nutshell the guy was saying the following:
when we go to sleep, our soul separates from our body and travels at the speed of light to the future. thus it is able to see all that is in the future. it then returns to our body and we are able to see the future events in our dreams. and so when something actually happens, we have a sense of deja vu.
(this is what i remember of that post. i cant remember what book he mentioned, and i will appreciate it if someone actually puts the name of the book down)
I have a problem with this idea for the following reason:
soul is a philosophical entity. it has not been proven by science. according to science there is no such thing as soul*.
the concept of time travel, on the other hand, is purely scientific. true, there is a theory that you can time travel if you are able to travel with the speed of light.
in essence he is trying to mix up things that, like oil and water, will never mix.
so his idea is basically BS.
so that is the reason i dont want to read any of his books or whatever. his other ideas might be like that. reading him would be a waste of time.

what is your take on this?




* I am speculating someone would come up with the idea that soul is an entity that has been weighted etc. there is no truth in that. you might want to consult snopes if you dont believe me.

Mirch

That theory turns to the ashes with the fact that sometimes we see dead relatives in our dreams so where do they come from ? How can they be part of our future if they are dead ? That is a mucho loco theory about dreams.

psyah

Peace jaanaan

Do you believe in God? If so why? God has not been proven by science.

Now please don't take me as giving support to the dream - future scenario - this is not what I believe well not precisely. However, I see there are some difficulties with the basis for the rejection of Harun Yahya books.

Firstly, you have not read much about him ... so how can you form an opinion about him? And even if you didn't accept him at least give yourself a chance to decide which of his words you choose not to agree with.

The soul is a part of the belief system of Islam.

According to science you say "there is no such thing as a soul" this is not true. According to science "there is no way to measure the existence of a soul at the present level of technology" it therefore classes the soul as something that can neither be said scientifically that there is one nor can it be said that there is not one.

The concept of some sort of time travel is true but there is more to this argument but it seems you have accepted this part ... when in reality discussions on time travel are in their infancy. Time Dilation is what has been currently understood in the light of relativity.

Take from people what they have to be true and leave from them what they give from falsehood this way you are not missing out.

living_lightning

I believe Psyah has hit the nail on the head, but I would just like to reiterate how deconstructive it is to argue about something which you have not researched about. Harun Yahya is actually a very respectable author and his works are filled with scientific references and citations. So, Please do some research on the guy, you might be surprised at what you find. Visit harunyahya.com; he has written about numerous topics and a great number of his articles are available to be read. And as for this whole thing about souls. You can go on this website and download his book "Darwin's Dilemma: The Soul" for free.