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Jun 28th, 2009, 06:51 PM
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..considering you have to bow down when greeting them?
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Jun 28th, 2009, 06:57 PM
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really?.. do you confirm that they are your Lord when bowing down? you dont do wuzzu, and do the sajda to greet them , or do you?
God judge you with the intention u have in ur heart.
mein ne Allah ko apne iraadoN ke tootne se pehchaana .. (hz Ali RA)
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Jun 28th, 2009, 07:03 PM
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^Ofcourse, I understand that. I was saying that as a symbolic gesture, it might be considered haraam.
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Jun 28th, 2009, 07:07 PM
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Bowing down , also a nod of the head are not the same things as prostration.
Last edited by fayax; Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:37 AM..
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Jun 28th, 2009, 07:09 PM
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^ I see. So the big thing is intent, and not the symbolic gesture itself. Ok.
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Jun 28th, 2009, 10:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yea_Boii
..considering you have to bow down when greeting them?
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Like everyone said intention is what counts but still who says you ' have to'? If you don't want to, you can just nod or smile.
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Jun 28th, 2009, 10:37 PM
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Why not meeting westerners-handshake with na mahrams not fine either.
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Jun 28th, 2009, 11:41 PM
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s lkng t nn Mslms hrm s wll bcs thr fcs r gly nd t my dss r dn?
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Jun 29th, 2009, 03:03 AM
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In Mughal Era....Bowing Dowing was symbol of respect....It was done for Kings...This is only a cultural thing and if Muslims can do it to Muslims then whats wrong in doing with Japanese.
If I was you I would say Assalam o Alaikum...and if chinese ask...chi chua cha....(what did you just say) just reply I said Peace be on you.
Love for All Hatred for None
P.S What I write above in post are my personal views only.
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Jun 29th, 2009, 03:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slickstar
Is looking at a non Muslims haram as well because their faces are ugly and it may disease our deen?
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Means???
A heart in pain, longs for rain
A heart asks for no shrine, nor heavens divine
But a heart, that's mine.
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Jun 29th, 2009, 07:15 AM
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meeting everyone is haraam. you are not supposed to walk out of your home without doing any haraam thing. so just dont leave your house. oh, and keep your eyes closed because you might see some haraam things. keep your nose closed because you might smell some haraam things. etc etc.
the game of snakes and ladders captures the eternal truth that for every ladder there is a snake waiting around the corner. and for every snake there a ladder will compensate.
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Jun 29th, 2009, 07:17 AM
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Means???
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It just is bro.
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Originally Posted by jaanaan
meeting everyone is haraam. you are not supposed to walk out of your home without doing any haraam thing. so just dont leave your house. oh, and keep your eyes closed because you might see some haraam things. keep your nose closed because you might smell some haraam things. etc etc.
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good post. lI totally agree with you lol
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Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yea_Boii
..considering you have to bow down when greeting them?
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You have a brain please use it or just dont talk.
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Jul 4th, 2009, 09:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fayax
Bowing down , also a nod of the head are not the same things as prostration.
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Bowing is an act of ibadah and Muslims perform it in their Salaahhs; the Rokuu.
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....But bowing is not permitted, unless the person being greeted is old and is unable to stand up, or is one of your parents and you do not want to make him or her stand up to shake your hand or embrace you. So if you bow and kiss his head or forehead out of respect for the rights that he has over you, then this is not the kind of bowing that constitutes an act of worship. Undoubtedly bowing is an act of worship towards Allaah, as in rukoo’ (the bowing in prayer), so if that is done without shaking hands or kissing, it is an act of veneration towards that person and is therefore shirk.
Sheikh Abdullah ibn Jibreen
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"The Baptism of God, and who can Baptize better than God?" (2:138)
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Jul 5th, 2009, 06:55 PM
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I can't believe the types of things being posted these days.
Seriously?
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