DD

I am not talking about an event being explainable by everyday logic, rather logic in evaluating a pattern of recording of Ahadith and i don't see why the second coming of Jesus and appearence of Mahdi are related.

hanibal

SO where is the sahi hadith? saying that the Mahdi would come!!! yes there is one hadith which says ( not exact words) that some body will come to lead the nation, and this prophecy has been fulfilled in the past will be fulfilled in future, in Past when muslims were left leader-less and were being killed by Mongols, Bebris took the command, and he defeated them... when Crusaders invaded muslim lands, killed muslims in big numbers, started ruling them, killing their men and raping their women, Salahuddin came and led the nation...

This is logic, no body can deny that, but having a person, who's parents name is as same as name of Parent of Prophet Mohammad (SAW), who have same Kun'yat ( Abu Qasim) as Prophet Mohammad (SAW), who will realize his Imamat at the age of 40, same age where Prophet Mohammad (SAW) was blessed with Prophet-hood.. does create suspicious about the claim of Mehdi itself.. yes leader of the nation, like Salahuddin, Like Bebris, Like Mohammad Ali Jinnah will come and they will lead the nation...

submitmj

On the contrary, I fully believe hadiths & sunnah are fabrications falsely attributed to Muhammad against his will. Thus, are satanic innovations.

submitmj

Here is one of many Quranic verses that demonstrates that 'other' sources such as hadith and sunnah are tantamount to disbelief.

[Quran 31:6] Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless Hadith, and thus divert others from the path of GOD without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution.



Hadith & Sunna: Fabrications by the Prophet's Enemies

[Quran 6:112] We have permitted the enemies of every prophet - human and jinn devils - to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.



Important Criterion
[6:113] This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such fabrications, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.*


Quran: Fully Detailed*
[6:114] Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?* Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.


[6:115] The word of your Lord is complete,* in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.


[6:116] If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of GOD. They follow only conjecture; they only guess.



Here is another Quranic verse saying the same thing VERY CLEARLY.

[Quran 12:111] In their history, there is a lesson for those who possess intelligence. This is not fabricated Hadith; this (Quran) confirms all previous scriptures, provides the details of everything, and is a beacon and mercy for those who believe.

DD

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