DR ZAKIR NAIK AT DUBAI AIRPORT EXPO ON 27 & 28th AUGUST - Page 5

sugarplum55 · Oct 30th, 2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nosherwan

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You should be banned.

Don't spread lies.

False accusations are a major sin.

You will be questioned for everything you say on the Day of Judgement.

Dr Zakir Naik has done a lot more for Islam than any money-grabbing Peer-Faqeer, dirty unwashed Malang or Mullah's who like to make false fatwas that ties are haraam (lol).

People like you are brainwashed by your sectarian Mullahs/Peers, they fill your heads with so much feces it is unreal, "falaan wahaabi hai, falaan yeh hai" just to chamkaa their own dukaans.

look boy dont start with me...i can prove that he is a gustakh aur logo ko gumrah karta hai woh and there was nothing wrong with wat i said and watever i said was the truth..........

ravage · Oct 30th, 2009, 01:26 PM

isnt he the guy that said something bad about Imam Hussain

Knew i'd find this discussion soon as I clicked on the thread

Prince Abbas · Oct 30th, 2009, 07:55 PM

JOSH MALIHABA’DI —(Shabbir Hasan Khan 1894 - 1982 popularly known as Josh)

Tareekh dey rahi hai yeh awaaz dam ba dam

Dasht-e-sabat-o-Azm hai Dast-e-Bala-o-Gam

Sabr-e-Maseeh wa juraa’t suqrat ki qasam
Is rah mea hai sirf ek insaan ka qadam

Jis kee rago’n mein Aatish-e-Badr-o-Hunain Hai

Us soorma ka isme girami Hussain Hai

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Jo Saheb-e-Mizaj-e-Naboowat tha wo Hussain

Jo waris-e-zameer-e-Risalat tha wo Hussain

Jo Khalwati-e-Shahid-e-Qudrat tha wo Hussain

Jis kaa wojood fakhr-e-mashiat tha wo Hussain

Sanchay main dhalney key liye Kainaat ko

Jo tolta tha Nok-e-Mazaa’ par hayat ko
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Jo Ek nishan-e-Tashna dhani tha wo Hussain

Geeti pey Arsh kee jo nishani tha wo Hussain

Jo Khuld ka Ameer-e-Jawani tha wo Hussain

Jo Ek san-e-jadeed ka bani tha wo Hussain

Jis ka Lahu Talatum-e-pinhaa’n liye huway

Har boond mein tha Nooh ka Toofan liye huway
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Jo Karwan-e-Azm ka Rehbar tha wo Hussain

Khud Apney khoon kaa jo shanawar tha wo Hussain

Ek Deen-e-Tazaa ka jo payambar tha wo Hussain

Jo Karbala ka dawar-e-Mehshar tha wo Hussain

Jis kee nazar pey Shewa-e-Haq ka madar tha

Jo Rooh-e-Inqilab ka parwardigar tha
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Ha’n ab bhi jo manara-e-Azmat Hai wo Hussain

Jis kee nigah marg-e-Adawat Hai wo Hussain

Ab bhi jo Mehwa-e-Dars-e-Mohabbat Hai wo Hussain

Aadam kee jo daleel-e-Sharafat hai wo Hussain

Wahid jo ek namoona hai zibh-e-Azeem Ka

Allah rey intekhab Khuda-e-Hakeem ka
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Ha’n wo Hussain Jis kaa abad Aashna Sabat

Kehta Hai Gaah Gaah Hakeemoo sey bhi yeh baat

Yaney duroon-e-pardaa-e-Sad Rang-e-Kainaat

Ek Karsaz Zehn hai, Ek zee Shaoor zaat

Sijdoo’n sey khainchta hai jo masjood kee taraf

Tanhaa jo ek ishara hai maabood kee taraf

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Taaqat see shaei ko khaak mein jis ney mila diya

Taqtaa Ullatt key qasr-e-huqoomat ko dha diya

Jis ney hawa mein ruab-e-Imarat Urhaa diya

Thokar sey jis ney afsar-e-Shahi Gira diya

Is tarha jis sey Zulm Siyah Faam ho gaya

Lafz-e-yazeed dakhil-e-Dushnam ho gaya

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Pani sey teen roz huway jis key lab na tar

Teg-o-Tabr ko sompp diya jis ney ghar ka ghar

Jo mar gaya Zameer kee Izzat key nam par

Zilaat key Aastaan pey Jukaya magar na sar

Lee jis ney saans rishtey-e-Shahi ko Tor kar

Jis ney Kalai maut kee rakh dee maroar kar

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Har chand ahl-e-joer ney chaha yeh barhaa

Ho jaey mehaw yaad-e-Shaheedaan-e-Karbala

Baqi rahey na naam zameen par Hussain kaa

Laikin Kisi ka zoar Azizo Na Chal saka

Abbas-e-Namwar key lahu sey dhula huwa

Ab bhi Hussainiat ka alam hai khula huwa
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Yeh subh-e-Inqilab kee jo aaj kal hai zoe

Yeh jo machal rahi hai Saba, Phatt rahi hai poe

Yeh jo Chirag-e-Zulm kee tharaa rahi hai loe

Dar parda yeh Hussain kee Anfaas kee hai roe

Haq key Chiray huway hain jo yeh Saaz Dosto

Yeh bhi isee jari kee hai Awaaz Dosto

Surdar Asif · Oct 30th, 2009, 09:36 PM

^brilliant

Maverick_27 · Nov 2nd, 2009, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince Abbas

Nosherwan:

It's more than just mistake he has made, and has not even repented.
Some mistakes are SIN. He blesses the killers of Prophet's family, and then claims to represent Muslims?

yazid ibne muavia was a Taabi. he was mujahid gud administrator, alim and orator of great standing. his succession was accepted by most of sahaba and most of the muslims accepted his bayath including majority of banu hashim. specially the family of hazrat hasan (RA) who even did not supported the kharooj of Hazrat Hussain.

hazrat imam ghazali and other scholars have mentioned that it could not be proved from authentic and independent sources that yazid ibn muavia order the killings of hazrat hussain and his matrydom was a tragic accident. so dr. zakir naik has not said sth new.

newayz whether he was guilty or not is known to allah who is the better judge. now it is very irrelevant to discuss about the incident of karbala (as it was not the first event as the sahaba had differnce in the earliest era like hazrat saad bin ubada and hazrat abu bakar , hazrat aisha and hazrat ali......... so we cant make judgement as it is the prerogative of allah). we are not accountable for the acts of hazrat hussain and yazid.

what we are required to do is to lead our life according to quran and sunnah. may allah show all of us right path.

Raj_ind · Nov 2nd, 2009, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_27

yazid ibne muavia was a Taabi. he was mujahid gud administrator, alim and orator of great standing. his succession was accepted by most of sahaba and most of the muslims accepted his bayath including majority of banu hashim. specially the family of hazrat hasan (RA) who even did not supported the kharooj of Hazrat Hussain.

hazrat imam ghazali and other scholars have mentioned that it could not be proved from authentic and independent sources that yazid ibn muavia order the killings of hazrat hussain and his matrydom was a tragic accident. so dr. zakir naik has not said sth new.

newayz whether he was guilty or not is known to allah who is the better judge. now it is very irrelevant to discuss about the incident of karbala (as it was not the first event as the sahaba had differnce in the earliest era like hazrat saad bin ubada and hazrat abu bakar , hazrat aisha and hazrat ali......... so we cant make judgement as it is the prerogative of allah). we are not accountable for the acts of hazrat hussain and yazid.

what we are required to do is to lead our life according to quran and sunnah. may allah show all of us right path.

Maverick although I m not qualified enough to take part in this discussion, but the only thing I know and have grown up listening and even believing that that guy Yazid was a bloody bigot who ordered the murder of family of the holy prophet, which included one infant too. Ur showering of praises on this kind of personality is not in good taste and it may hurt sentiments of millions.

a-town boy · Nov 2nd, 2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_27

yazid ibne muavia was a Taabi. he was mujahid gud administrator, alim and orator of great standing.

joke of the century...

Nussairee · Nov 2nd, 2009, 02:49 PM

Maverick- with ur sense of judgement and understanding of the word justice..........why dont u say in the same breath that Nimrood was a very strong leader who managed his finances really well............Firoun had very good political & ppl mngt skills............forgive me for saying this but u seem to not know the diff b/w filth and purity........

Prince Abbas · Nov 2nd, 2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_27

[B]yazid ibne muavia was a Taabi.

And Hussain was a SAHABI and a member of AHLULBAYT.

Maverick_27 · Nov 2nd, 2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by a-town boy

joke of the century...

by da way was not he taabi is that worth laughing.

for rest of the thingd there is difference of opinion............. iagree.

Maverick_27 · Nov 2nd, 2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince Abbas

And Hussain was a SAHABI and a member of AHLULBAYT.

well said

did i deny it ?

comparison of hazrat hussain and yazid ib mauvia could not bring ne gud to us. both are imp figure of islamic history.

Dr. Zakir Naik has presented an opinion and his opinion is not new. in history many scholars have that view.

u cant stop an alim from saying sth provided same is backed by knowledge and ratinale.

like the shia's have a very different definition and "opinion" about the sahaba................ and we tolerate

Maverick_27 · Nov 2nd, 2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nussairee

Maverick- with ur sense of judgement and understanding of the word justice..........why dont u say in the same breath that Nimrood was a very strong leader who managed his finances really well............Firoun had very good political & ppl mngt skills............forgive me for saying this but u seem to not know the diff b/w filth and purity........

brother jazbatti

as a general principle we alway compare "like to like case".

namrood and firoun were kafir and even they claimed that they are god.

here we are talking about two muslims "hazrat hussain and yazid ibn Muavia" both were learned person and had great knowledge of shariah and practicing muslims.

so khuda kay liyay dont make yazid that controversial ............. he was muslim after all and was the nephew of "mother of believer".

bhaee u need to read the post carefully before u reply (just kidding!)

Nussairee · Nov 3rd, 2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_27

brother jazbatti

as a general principle we alway compare "like to like case".

namrood and firoun were kafir and even they claimed that they are god.

here we are talking about two muslims "hazrat hussain and yazid ibn Muavia" both were learned person and had great knowledge of shariah and practicing muslims.

so khuda kay liyay dont make yazid that controversial ............. he was muslim after all and was the nephew of "mother of believer".

bhaee u need to read the post carefully before u reply (just kidding!)

no comments

righteous · Nov 3rd, 2009, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_27

brother jazbatti

as a general principle we alway compare "like to like case".

namrood and firoun were kafir and even they claimed that they are god.

here we are talking about two muslims "hazrat hussain and yazid ibn Muavia" both were learned person and had great knowledge of shariah and practicing muslims.

so khuda kay liyay dont make yazid that controversial ............. he was muslim after all and was the nephew of "mother of believer".

bhaee u need to read the post carefully before u reply (just kidding!)

In my opinion Kaafirs are still better then hypocrites.....

Prince Abbas · Nov 3rd, 2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_27

orator of great standing.

Then did the cat got his tongue when Sayyida Zainab, Imam Ali's daughter, gave her khutbah in Yazid's (LA) court?

Prince Abbas · Nov 3rd, 2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_27

well said

did i deny it ?

comparison of hazrat hussain and yazid ib mauvia could not bring ne gud to us. both are imp figure of islamic history.

Why would the comparison not bring any good? One killed another. Comparison is bound to happen.
A so-called "Taabi" killed a Sahabi of Rasoolallah and a member of Ahlul Bayt. He then enslaved and abused women of Rasoolallah's family and brought them in his court in front of other "taabi"s.
If you call Yazid a "taabi" then you should also call Abu Jahl a "Sahabi".

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Dr. Zakir Naik has presented an opinion and his opinion is not new. in history many scholars have that view.

All such opinions of these NASIBI scholars go down the drain when one compares who Imam Hussain was, and who Yazid was.
May be this is why you are afraid of comparisons between them, because the comparison clearly shows the low character of such scholars who defended Yazid's killing of Ahlul Bayt.

Mostar95 · Nov 8th, 2009, 11:24 AM

Did yazid punsih the people who were resposible for the killings at Kerbala? If he was not himself involved? And then why he sent forces against Ibn' Zubair and his forces later stoned Kaba?

Das Reich · Nov 8th, 2009, 10:24 PM

maverick u are either a nasibi or have been duped by nasibi propoganda , dr naik maybe an expert in debating with yahood nasara ( and may God bless him for that if his intentions ar sincere) but he is clearly ignorant of sunni hadith and history.

Good point raised by brother Mostar95 , I will wait for your answer. Plus dr naik conveniently forgot the pillaging of medina by syrian army of yazid and as mentioned by mostar95 the siege of makkah.Are these all arguments of "shias" ?

Your problem is the same with many other sunnis in the past in their munazirat or debates with 12ers they go to any extreme and adopt any method fair or foul to win.In this way they stoop to the level of the same rafidas whom they detest so much.

Das Reich · Nov 8th, 2009, 10:27 PM

wow i missed that who ever told u yazid was a mujadid ? same people who said that muawiyah was from ashra-e-mubashira ( roll eyes)

Das Reich · Nov 8th, 2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Save4mShirk

Well i think is this is the reason the you know Battle of Bassorah right? you know then Bebi aisha (R.A.U.H) was on a came when under the command of Hazrath Ali a man came and cut the legs of the camel and she fell? you know bebe Aisha (R.A.U.H) is mother of all belivers? this is what quran says so what should we say Hazrath ALI then? let me tell you some thing any war not on Allah's cause is not jihad! you fight for kashmir or u fight for money it is not jihad! go see how many sahabs where bucherd by muslims itself! go see how muslims started to become evil after the prophet Muhammed P.B.U.H.

man u guys are so messed up ! and the 12ers feed of this

let me set you straight the ijma of ahle sunnah scholars is that in all his wars ali b alitalib was right and all those who opposed him were wrong.Plus this is not merely a historical issue but a RELIGIOUS one. As all laws in Shariah pertaining to dealing with muslim rebels come from the Quran and EXAMPLE OF ALI B ABITALIB.

She is no doubt the wife of Prophet and our mother, but muslims had the option to support either mother or what was Haqq and Ali was on Haqq at that time.( refer to sahih muslim and hadith of ammar in the mosque of kufa)