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Nov 2nd, 2009, 08:47 AM
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Im new on gs and Muharram are coming so i was just wondering if there any shia ppl on gs .
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Nov 2nd, 2009, 08:49 AM
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^^ Not a shia but What do you intend to Do for Muharram ..plus its still a long way yet ..
I have a thread on Muharram and Karbala ..You may read it if ya want ..
"My dear heart never think you are better than others. Listen to their sorrows with compassion. If you want peace, don't harbour bad thoughts do not gossip and don't teach what you do not know." [Maulana Rumi]
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Nov 2nd, 2009, 08:58 AM
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Go to the mosque for the ten days and recite nohe.
i'll surely read your thread on Muharram and Karbala
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Nov 2nd, 2009, 01:44 PM
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nominally shia person here.
O Englightened dog, come and stay with me for a while.
- Hazrat Bayazid Bistani (The way of the Sufi)
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Nov 2nd, 2009, 04:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RabZZZ
Im new on gs and Muharram are coming so i was just wondering if there any shia ppl on gs .
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Iran Defence Forum
If you're in the UK, you can find three of their channels on Sky Digital.
Hidayat TV: Channel Number 803
Ahle Bait: Channel Number 836
Ahlulbayt TV: Channel 842
I must warn you though, they preach constant extremely offensive hatred against the Sahabas, especially Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Usman and other leading Sahabas Radhi'Allahu Anhum.
May Allah's (Subhana Wa'Ta'Allah) curse be upon them.
Allahu-Akbar: Iraqis are now free to throw their boots at the Americans, when will Afghans get that freedom?
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Nov 2nd, 2009, 05:09 PM
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^Allah's curse is on the enemies of the Prophet and his family and of course the liars...........
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAFv_XAYNHI
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Nov 2nd, 2009, 05:20 PM
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WOHOOOO!
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not a shia, but Moharram is one of the four sacred months of Islamic calendar. so every muslim actually respect it, and it is not only for shias.
besides, these days there is Karbala happening everyday in Pakistan.
"There are two rules for ultimate success in life: #1. Never tell everything you know." ;)
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Nov 2nd, 2009, 05:23 PM
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^karbala's message is of triumph of the truth against the falsehood............that actually is probably the only thing not happening in Pakistan.........
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Nov 2nd, 2009, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RabZZZ
Go to the mosque for the ten days and recite nohe.
i'll surely read your thread on Muharram and Karbala
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reading nohas and all the tamashas of muharram is forbidden in mainstream islam.
Do yourself a favor and if nothing else read this book in muharram and see how tyrannical irani kings distorted islam and created a new faith of 12er shiaism
Amazon.com: Islam Without Allah?: The Rise of Religious Externalism in Safavid Iran (9780700714476): Colin Turner: Books
My master is the one most entitled amongst creation to this matter by his excellence in religion, early merit in islam and close kinship with the messanger of God
-Bashir b Amr b Mihsan Al-Ansari
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Nov 2nd, 2009, 07:10 PM
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^hey man..........where u been?
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Nov 2nd, 2009, 07:14 PM
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what are nohe/nohas?
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by princessjojo
what are nohe/nohas?
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Nohe is what you read at the mosque after the majlis has finished and we all shia muslims do mattam to it in the respect of our Holy Prophets (P.B.U.T)
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Pakistani Dragon
If you're in the UK, you can find three of their channels on Sky Digital.
Hidayat TV: Channel Number 803
Ahle Bait: Channel Number 836
Ahlulbayt TV: Channel 842
I must warn you though, they preach constant extremely offensive hatred against the Sahabas, especially Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Usman and other leading Sahabas Radhi'Allahu Anhum.
May Allah's (Subhana Wa'Ta'Allah) curse be upon them.
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I live in the UK and watching the 3 channels but Ahle Bait: Channel Number 836 is sometimes saying stuff against the shia's and then somtimes against the sunni's.
Hidayat TV is the best shia channel.
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Nussairee
^hey man..........where u been?
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sorry was busy with my job , this last month was a death ride
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 08:52 AM
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islam forbids mourning for more than three days. chest beating, lamenting, wailing and dramabazi is totally not permissible. any1 who does that sems like he/she is not aggreeing wit6h Allah's decisions.
i read a book bu musfti MoHammad Shaf'ii Usmani and there are 10 beliefs if one subscribes to it is NOT even considered a muslim. if any1 interested i'll p[ost those 10 beliefs.
LEARN to write Roman Urdu
visit my thread in libguistic section
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 10:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hashmat Usmani
islam forbids mourning for more than three days. chest beating, lamenting, wailing and dramabazi is totally not permissible. any1 who does that sems like he/she is not aggreeing wit6h Allah's decisions.
i read a book bu musfti MoHammad Shaf'ii Usmani and there are 10 beliefs if one subscribes to it is NOT even considered a muslim. if any1 interested i'll p[ost those 10 beliefs.
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yeah u got that right no darama baazi...but aik cheez bhool gaye..unhon nien apne amaal ka phal khaana hai or aapne apne...
Love for All Hatred for None
P.S What I write above in post are my personal views only.
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 04:49 PM
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Yeh I'm Shia. 1 month..Can't wait to recite some nohay..
"This world is a prison for the believers and a paradise for the disbelievers." - Prophet Mohammad (SAW)
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Das Reich
reading nohas and all the tamashas of muharram is forbidden in mainstream islam.
Do yourself a favor and if nothing else read this book in muharram and see how tyrannical irani kings distorted islam and created a new faith of 12er shiaism
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Wasn't it you a few months back who was arguing that it was Hasham Ibn Hakam who had created the 12ers?? This book sounds interesting and I will try to read it. Though anyone who thinks Shi'ism is the product of the Safavis obviously doesn't have the slightest clue of what they are talking about. Our greatest scholars and most important books, the core of our sources, all predate the Safavis by hundreds of years.
"And those who oppress shall see what kind of outcome overturns them."
[26:227] Al-Quran
Last edited by Pagluu; Nov 3rd, 2009 at 06:09 PM..
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 06:03 PM
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Lol at Shiism being created by the Safavi's..It was introduced by them, wow. There are A BUNCH of theories about this lol but them creating it, no effing way. At that time Iran was under a Sufi order which naturally would have had ties with the Ahl-ul-Bayt (as). Then there was Shah Ismail who was influenced by Allama Majlisi to introduce the sect I believe.
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Pagluu
Wasn't it you a few months back who was arguing that it was Hasham Ibn Hakam who had created the 12ers?? This book sounds interesting and I will try to read it. Though anyone who thinks Shi'ism is the product of the Safavis obviously doesn't have the slightest clue of what they are talking about. Our greatest scholars and most important books, the core of our sources, all predate the Safavis by hundreds of years.
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read the book first and then comment on it ....
Hisham b hakam was the one most commonly associated with imami 12er theology , and the disgraceful practice of sabb-e-sahaba.Yes he does predate safavis and 12er shiaism evolved to its present form over centuries.What I mean was the state ideology of 12ers was finalized during this time as for the first time it got a clear majority in a muslim country.
A lot of sources for 12ers are actually common with other muslims so that hardly counts as purely 12er works.
Last edited by Das Reich; Nov 3rd, 2009 at 06:21 PM..
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