X Factor

Dear folks

These people are islam kay naam par dhabba. people like these give muslims a bad name. They are narrow minded, emotional, egotistical, and abusive.

How can anyone claim to be a muslim while saying the kind of words that they have been using for others. All you need to do is to ask a question and you are a Kafir..You can be a muslim who is traying to learn more but instead of treating this person with respect and affection, they belittle him and mock the fact that this person does not possess the amount of knowledge these people claim to have.

They berate non muslims. How is someone going to learn what islam is and change his/her misconceptions let alone admire our great religion..if people like these start with a curse word.

They like to give examples and quote surahs and ahadeeth...well...What did Our Holy Prophet do? when did he use such crude words towards anyone, when did he belittle anyone?

My words will fall on deaf ears and I will now be called all sorts of names I know. But I have had enough of these guys. I have no doubt that they possess the knowledge or have Access to the knowledge that many dont have and can benefit from. Their abusive attitude and crude manners take away from that.

I know I have no such authority, and I am not even sure that admins will do anything..but what if you were asked to vote on banning these guys?

BubbleBuster, Ghazi and co. Understand that I am only against your mannerism and behavior. I think if you approach his discussion in a decent manner people will actually listen to you and ask you questions on issues that they have little knowldge on..without being belittled and humiliated by your crude and uncouth statements.

I would suggest that if this abusive behavior continues, we should ban these people.

Ahmer

ZZ

I am against banning people. But they should refrain from abusive language. Otherwise it is too much job for moderator to keep editing posts.

X Factor

ZZ its a symbolic gesture. I am against banning too. Its a shame to see people who obviously have access to knowledge and answers behave in such a disrespectful and Jahil manner.

Ever heard the phrase "parrhay likhay Jahil"

NYAhmadiX

I disagree. We are strong enough to deal with them and alike. By using foul language they only make jackass out of themselves. Their behavior is no reflection on Islam or Muslims. Just like ZZ’s posts have nothing to do with him being Ahmadi, I will say that BB, Ghazi and fridge should continue posting their inflammatory stuff here. It is better that it is out then stay inside them and cause psychiatric and other problems. Let them vent. We should all work together towards their wellbeing and health (mental health, that is).

queer

Nope. The three musketeers have really helped boost my self-esteem. it is a wonderfully noble feeling to be able to see so vividly that you are well above some people when it comes to being patient and restrained. i would like to pump my ego up a lil more and banning them rightaway is gonna leave me half way thru.

but seriously, i dont think they have been spoiling islam's reputation, they have been spoiling their own reputation. in fact, i was impressed by other muslim members opposing the hatred and misuse of religion, and am quite convinced that islam doesnt prescribe hatred towards non-believers.

oye X Factor, you mah twin? is Susie Derkins around? mebbe we could give her a shock - two Calvins http://www.pak.org/gupshup/biggrin.gif

X Factor

queer u picked calvin after I did

zaraatif

Yeah, you used to be the Indian from the Simpsons! It's confusing when you go through such a drastic change. Have mercy on my imagination!

Ghazi

HOW ABOUT THIS MOTHERF****R MODERAOTR WHO HAS PUT LOCK ON ALL DECENT DISCUSSIONS INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE LOCK ON HIS MAMA'S CH*UT, SO NO OTHER BA*TARTD LIKE HIM WILL BORN AGAIN. THIS MOTHERF**KER IS ABUSING POWER. IF YOU BAN SOME ONE, THINK ABOUT SHUTTING DOWN THIS F*CKING SITE AND BANNING THIS MFSOB FROM BEING A MODERATOR. WHY NONE OF YOU OBJECT TO THE POWER ABUSE OF THIS MOTHERF**KER KAFIR ROMAN? WHAT YOU EXPECT WHEN SOME ONE IS PROVOKED? THIS MOTHERF**KER IS ENJOYING IT. BECAUSE OF THIS A$$HOLE MODERATOR THIS DAMN FORUM HAS TURNED INTO A STUPID DISFUNCTIONAL FAMILY LIKE HE CAME FROM. THIS RUNDI KI AULAD NEED TO GET HIS ACT TOGETHER, RIGHT?

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Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!

queer

X-factor,

it's ok, i'm flattered that people wanna pick my photo for their nicks. http://www.pak.org/gupshup/biggrin.gif

zaraatif,

actually i had no idea these guys had my real pic, so i chose some lousy ones in the beginning. who's your nick-pic (or is it pic-nick)? and my sincere apologies to your imagination.

Roman

Dear Ghazi (& Co.),

Like I said before, I am not going to allow a new thread from you until you calm down and behave like decent human beings.

And please, would you really think I get inflammed by words like 'Mother****er' or 'Rundi'? O dearly, you are so naive you make me chuckle.

Adbulmalick

I think they would like to be banned because they have abused almost everybody and, being banned would give them the face-saving' option. So, I would be against banning them. At the same time, I really feel for the moderator who is the target of their abuses. I didn't think Roman was this tough, Bravo !!

On the flip side - this is what Pakistanis will get in a Islamic state with Sharia, people like Bubble & Ghazi - the Islam-Nazis telling/lecturing all how to be muslims.

NYAhmadiX

Dear Adbulmalik, you and I think on pretty much the same wavelength. But in this case, I am in total disagreement with you. even if we do have an Islamic government (i.e., Shariah style) in Pakistan, Islamic-Nazis will not be lecturing others how to be a Muslim. They will first need to resolve differences among themselves, which, as we all know, will never happen.

zaraatif

Queer,
I can see you are sincere, so I accept your apology. About my picture, I don't know who she is...

Ghazi

VOTE TO SPAY ROMAN’S MOM, AND NEUTER HIS FATHER WITH ALL MALES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO PREVENT THE BIRTH OF ANOTHER ******* LIKE ROMAN.

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Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!

[This message has been edited by Ghazi (edited April 07, 2000).]

X Factor

Ghazi

you have placed the entire responsibility for your actions and attitude on Roman.

Could you justify your use of profanities?

Is that the behavior that any muslim should demonstrate?

I dont want to hear what Roman did or diod not do, I have eyes and I can see for myself.

Right now I am questioning you. And since you talk about logic etc. I dont want to get pulled in a tangent discussion.

Explain your attitude, explain your use of profanities and your practice of general abusive behavior towards others. What does Islam say about treatment of others.

queer

Hobbes here thinks you look really cute in the pic.

Ghazi,

how much will you degrade yourselves? Please follow the Qur'an, your behavior is totally un-islamic.

X Factor

I need supporting evidence that this sort of behavior and attitude is islamic and prescribed by the noble quran or sunnah.

The true colours, the true intellect and the true personality of this person is beginning to show from beneath the fake covering of pseudo-knowledge he claimed.

what good is knowledge without practice? what happened to "haqooq-al-ibaad"?

As they say you can load a load of books on a donkey, but he will stay a donkey. Thats what I see here.

Roman, I am surprised to see that you have not deleted such abusive and vulgar posts. They have served one purpose though, showed the immaturity of this person.

NYAhmadiX

My Dear Ghazi,

Neutering of males in Lahore requires a lot of preliminaries to go through, first of which is to polish the thing in question, playing with it for calming it down to achieve tranquility, kissing it gently and then performing the ritual. Are you willing to do all of that since you are proposing this. It appears you have a lot of experience doing that. You really are a Ghazi.

Please give my love and respect to all your relatives and neighbors.

Ghazi

That task has already been asigned to you. Because you are the best person for that. You just demonstrated your knowledge about it.



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Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!

Roman

NYAhmadi, I think you are forgetting the licking part.

X Factor You answered your own surprise.