Is CHESS haram in Islam? - Page 2

Ali_R · Aug 26th, 2001, 05:31 PM

hmmmm interesting no one is reply on my previous posting.

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Sadiaa · Aug 26th, 2001, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by Ali_R:
what about cards??!? the same or haram!?
Considering that this is time stealing, etc etc.....if Computers and Internet would have been invented in this time period. Im very sure it wouldn't be legal (haram!) either.

I heard that its alright to play cards as long as your not obsessed with it or as long as you don't involve money in it. Yeh internet possibly wouldn't have been allowed. Not sure about internet being declared Haram to use but probably there must be some limit set to it or something similar to it.

nadeem5476 · Feb 22nd, 2009, 11:02 AM

here is the authentic hadees :

Prophet sallalahu alaihi wa sallam said,"He who played chess is like one who dyed his hand with the flesh and blood of swine."
Muslim 28.5612

read it and then think and then again think .

jazak ALLAH

righteous · Feb 22nd, 2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CocoNut

Ok, here is how it is. To my knowledge there is no hadeeth. BUT as a chess player myself I know this game is EXTREMELY addictive. Now excess of anything is haraam because its abuse to yourself. So Chess is a "Manhoos" game if played in excess but otherwise its ok to play it.

Good enough explanation for you?

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Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.

Love happens once . . .

So is Golf....shall we get a fatwa on that too?

kakaballi · Feb 22nd, 2009, 01:10 PM

Next question: Is GS haram in islam?

AikPakistani · Feb 22nd, 2009, 02:53 PM

^ Depends on the intention

Das Reich · Feb 22nd, 2009, 03:59 PM

i think there is a hadith which says that playing chess is like dipping ur hands in the blood of a pig
dont have a reference

diwana · Feb 22nd, 2009, 11:50 PM

^ Back then chess was played with dice and was a form of gambling and chance to progress the pieces.

If gambling is not a part of this game, if one does not forget essential ibadah then it has been considered OK.

By the way, chess was not introduced in arabian pennisula at the time of prophet (SAW) so any hadith in this regard should be looked upon with suspicion.

farahejaz · Jun 28th, 2009, 02:01 PM

I can show you the hadith which says it's haram, but I am looking for a justification.

Sahih Muslim
Book 26: The Book of Poetry (Kitab Al-Sh`ir)
Chapter 2: IT IS PROHIBITED TO PLAY CHESS
Book 028, Number 5612:

Buraida reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: He who played chess is like one who dyed his hand with the flesh and blood of swine.

fayax · Jun 28th, 2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CocoNut

Ok, here is how it is. To my knowledge there is no hadeeth. BUT as a chess player myself I know this game is EXTREMELY addictive. Now excess of anything is haraam because its abuse to yourself. So Chess is a "Manhoos" game if played in excess but otherwise its ok to play it.

Good enough explanation for you?

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Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.

Love happens once . . .

Yup. It is mainly considered as something that will take your time away from other activities that are more beneficial to you. Hence best be avoided.

FairyTale · Jun 28th, 2009, 03:20 PM

^ ditto...

Same goes to Music.

TLK · Jun 28th, 2009, 03:34 PM

so if you dedicate only one hour .. and play it .. but complete the game over few days (people used to play chess through letters ..) ..would that be OK?

I think it should be ok that way, if wastage of time is the only reason

Yea_Boii · Jun 28th, 2009, 03:49 PM

So should'nt test cricket be haraam as well? I mean we waste a good part of 5 days just completeing a damn match. And even then, it might end up in a draw!

But ofcourse, even maulvis like cricket, so obviously that fatwa aint comin!

FairyTale · Jun 28th, 2009, 04:08 PM

^Excess of everything is bad.... if u see cricket day n nite for consecutive five days, you are not normal at first place. And surely this way you will make it haram on you.

If you can find time to go to washroom, n cant help but using it, eat food, even during watching cricket matches, then you can find time for your fard prayers and other daily obligations too.

Islam teaches moderation, its none of the both extremes.

fayax · Jun 28th, 2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TLK

so if you dedicate only one hour .. and play it .. but complete the game over few days (people used to play chess through letters ..) ..would that be OK?

I think it should be ok that way, if wastage of time is the only reason

Well, I personally like chess....wana play online sometime when you have time ?

Challenge ? lol

hareem01 · Jul 1st, 2009, 06:00 PM

Short answer is no, chess is not haraam.

AllahkaBanda · Jul 1st, 2009, 09:56 PM

^really? no wonder Imam Muslim (rahimahullah) titled a chapter in his sahih as "IT IS PROHIBITED TO PLAY CHESS"

hareem01 · Jul 2nd, 2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AllahkaBanda

^really? no wonder Imam Muslim (rahimahullah) titled a chapter in his sahih as "IT IS PROHIBITED TO PLAY CHESS"

According to that criteria, spending time on gupshup in arguing would also be haram.

Imam Malik(ra) considered bahas in awaam (debate among non-scholars) Makruh.

we should be ashamed on ourselves, seriously.

COLD_FIRE · Jul 2nd, 2009, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hareem01

Short answer is no, chess is not haraam.

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According to that criteria, spending time on gupshup in arguing would also be haram.

Imam Malik(ra) considered bahas in awaam (debate among non-scholars) Makruh.

we should be ashamed on ourselves, seriously.

(Not taking away anything from the quote, it is true though.)

First people indulge in active discussion, and when it goes against their opinions they come up with the above. I wonder how would it reflect on their own activities.

COLD_FIRE · Jul 2nd, 2009, 06:02 AM

Well, i guess people are not entirely reading the threads and its contents when they pop up with their most intelligent comments and their most honest opinions, that's why i stare at the same Hadees quoted again and again... Which is no doubt true, and hence pours a perfect symmetry and light on the whole subject... but then why won't any of the laterz just say, "hey, there u go "... instead of, "hey look, i bring u this"...