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Old Jan 7th, 2008, 12:21 PM   #21 (permalink)  
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^^ But in that islamic reference, the day would be years long from the perspective of the one who is there.

In Einstien's theory, the day would be long in high gravity field, from the perspective of someone who is observing that form outsode that frame of reference. The one who is right there wont feel a difference.

Neverthless, I agree that with both of you that Quran gives references that are so close to what today's science is telling us







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Old Jan 7th, 2008, 12:22 PM   #22 (permalink)  
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@hin33 yes , I always find this question funny "what was there before allah" I mean allah created time(known fact-time was created during bigbang), when there was no time there was no before and after.
And yes I do believe when we die we are moved to a different part of universe. You should really watch movie "Contact".
I strongly recommend it. I find it fascinating when non muslim people end up endorsing islamic ideology .







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Old Jan 7th, 2008, 12:32 PM   #23 (permalink)  
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In Einstien's theory, the day would be long in high gravity field, from the perspective of someone who is observing that form outsode that frame of reference. The one who is right there wont feel a difference.
in both the cases.. time ticks slower in the space :dohh: we will feel a difference cose we will remmember how short our days were here on earth ..






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Old Jan 7th, 2008, 12:37 PM   #24 (permalink)  
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in both the cases.. time ticks slower in the space :dohh: we will feel a difference cose we will remmember how short our days were here on earth ..
But when the dead will wake up on the Day of Judgement they will think that they slept only for some hours. I don't know if this makes any sense as I haven't understood the whole topic.







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Old Jan 7th, 2008, 12:42 PM   #25 (permalink)  
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hareem suppose you have knifes. you keep one with you, and one where time passes by on different speed.
After 20 years your knife could be rusted and stuff.
Other knife could be still as good as new.
Thats whole thing apply on human/souls too.
Time passes on a different speed on different points of universe.






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Old Jan 7th, 2008, 12:46 PM   #26 (permalink)  
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in both the cases.. time ticks slower in the space :dohh: we will feel a difference cose we will remmember how short our days were here on earth ..

No no hin ... that is exactly what the theory says. Your body or mind will not feel any difference.

and BTW, if you are in such high gravity place where one day is equal to one year, the weight of your body would be such that you will collapse to the ground. All your bones would be shatterred.

It will be like if a 18 wheeler is on my shoulders. That is probably the kind of weight I would be feeling in a High gravity place like such.

I dont think that judgemnet day can be explained through scientifc theories.

Oh Boy, its like a deja vu all over again, This converstaion sound somewhat familiar






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Old Jan 8th, 2008, 06:41 AM   #27 (permalink)  
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it is said about the Special Theory of Relativity that when first Einstein proposed this theory ...only few people in the whole world..who could grasp all that !!!!!

still...it is considered as the the most difficult piece ..ever produced ..in the field of science...the unparallel genius of the world...Einstien....was sure about that....even in 1905..or onwards...wghen he published it in the journal...later....it was proved 100% right....

so..its not easy to grasp all about his theory...






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Peace (sign of) divine-light bro

Then they both hold quantum roles in life.

Yes...we are proud ..that one of the most genius people of 1.5 billion islamc world belong to Pakistan.....and using thier brains for Pakistan..and have not run from Pakistan in hawis of money.....!!!!!!

We all are proud of them...the whole islamic world is proud of them .....


Muahhmad Sabieh Anwar

http://ravi.lums.edu.pk/sabieh/sobee.jpg


Abubakr Muhammad....

http://sse.lums.edu.pk/images/facult...krMuhammad.jpg






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Old Jan 8th, 2008, 11:39 AM   #29 (permalink)  
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KA and Hareem......stop relating science with Quran and judgement day crap...............I am sure if you ask these smart ppl abt Quran, they will crack up.







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What made you think that we don't what "smart ppl's" opinion is, about facts in quran????






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KA and Hareem......stop relating science with Quran and judgement day crap...............I am sure if you ask these smart ppl abt Quran, they will crack up.

So relating science with Bible or Geeta would be fine.






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KA and Hareem......stop relating science with Quran and judgement day crap...............I am sure if you ask these smart ppl abt Quran, they will crack up
may be you will be surprised to know this fact that ..these two smart people are more islamic....then ordinary muslims...who even has a beard...






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may be you will be surprised to know this fact that ..these two smart people are more islamic....then ordinary muslims...who even has a beard...


Can you back your claims over here please, I don't see them sporting beards anyways...






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Ok guys, no need to change a scintific conversation to a proof of someone's faith.

Can we stick to the topic ...






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may be you will be surprised to know this fact that ..these two smart people are more islamic....then ordinary muslims...who even has a beard...
God, i really cant stand you anymore. Why dont you join pakistani2 and jump off the roof from where evil Shia pimps use for lookout for their prostitutes?






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I have seen happening exactly that in the arab lands.

In the newspapers and otherwise, the credit is given to some saif bin abdullah or mohamad al yusuf when it actually belongs to some tahir khan or asgher ali who work overtime putting together some research, idea or planning.

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Yeah ... It has been a regular thing for some time now that academic institutes in the West benefit from researchers who are mostly expats from Desi lands.

The leg work is done by Amjad Sheikhs and the Nobels go to John Fletchers.

One is the Quantum Mechanic the other is the Jinn .... hahahaha!






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Einstein didnt actually believe in certain parts of the Quantum theory for religious regions. He spend a considerable amount of time to try and disprove it.






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Old Jul 1st, 2008, 03:04 PM   #39 (permalink)  
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I once had this genius pakistani jinn with beard visit me, he was so quantum that he could tell time in four different languages becaaaas he was evil genius! The whole muslim world proud him becaaas he was evil genius jinn from pakistan and didn't run away to amreeka for hawas of money, he was genius guy.






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