Quantum Mechanics & the Jinns

huntedhuntsman · Dec 31st, 2007, 01:17 PM

I read, a while back, an article about how Quantum Mechanics effects our daily lives.
There is a theory that our physical actions are always being duplicated somewhere out there in the space (in some other dimension). It was also mentioned that the duplication of our actions are performed by Jinns (or in other words "hamzaad").
Any one who knows about this phenomenon, please elaborate on it .

TLK · Dec 31st, 2007, 02:04 PM

You read a book on Quantum Physics that talked about Jins ....

Give me the name of the book man.

Although there is book by Fred Allen Wolf by the name of "Parallel Universe". That talks about a possibilty of other 3-dimensional continums or "multiverse" as he coined the term.

as far as physical actions being duplicated, in a universe where every action is one outcome of millions of probabilties (Quantum Physics says that), it is possible that the same jackpot could be hit twice. Its a numbers game.

I dont see how Jins or hamzads could enter this thoery

huntedhuntsman · Dec 31st, 2007, 03:58 PM

TLK...
It was a religious article on the inet, talked of both the worlds.
have not come across a book yet.

divine-light · Jan 3rd, 2008, 10:47 AM

the 21 st century is of quantum.....

quantum computers...quantum information processors..qubits...etc etc...

pakistan two most genius persons are doing research in quantum....

PunchingMonk · Jan 3rd, 2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by huntedhuntsman

I read, a while back, an article about how Quantum Mechanics effects our daily lives.
There is a theory that our physical actions are always being duplicated somewhere out there in the space (in some other dimension). It was also mentioned that the duplication of our actions are performed by Jinns (or in other words "hamzaad").
Any one who knows about this phenomenon, please elaborate on it .

My Man

PunchingMonk · Jan 3rd, 2008, 11:24 AM

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pakistan two most genius persons are doing research in quantum....

who???
Are you telling finally some muslim scientists are doing research on advance concepts. WOWwwwwwww

divine-light · Jan 4th, 2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by knockout_artist

who???
Are you telling finally some muslim scientists are doing research on advance concepts. WOWwwwwwww

Abubakr Muhammad
http://qwiki.stanford.edu/wiki/Muhammad_Sabieh_Anwar

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=3&gl=pk

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=pk

http://www.iqis.org/mitacs-qip/Students.htm

http://www.iqis.org/mitacs-qip/Research.htm

Muhammad Sabieh Anwar

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=pk

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=4&gl=pk

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=5&gl=pk

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...nk&cd=10&gl=pk

divine-light · Jan 4th, 2008, 01:04 AM

Ensemble Quantum Computing with Nuclear Magnetic Resonance

Muhammad Sabieh Anwar

Centre for Quantum Computation, Clarendon Laboratory, Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PU, UK

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=5&gl=pk

PunchingMonk · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:34 AM

DL
"quantum Fourier transform" sounds interesting.

divine-light · Jan 6th, 2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by knockout_artist

DL
"quantum Fourier transform" sounds interesting.

i find simple Fourier so difficult...how difficult will be the Quantum Fourier....

PunchingMonk · Jan 6th, 2008, 01:12 PM

hehe i know ehh. Thats what I was thinking Fourier transform put together with quantum.

Did you try linux library ffw and ffw3 or some thing like that.
It works just fine. I have tested it my self. I takes values of you samples and do print results at the out put.
I did it on some data from Richard Lyons Book.

PrinceMS · Jan 6th, 2008, 06:39 PM

Correction: These are scientist of PAKISTAN ORIGINS. They are doing research for other countries, hence other countries are investing and benefiting from it. Kinda irrelevant point that they are muslims. All cultures / nations have brilliant people and hence the capabilities to prosper - but what they actually do matters more

psyah · Jan 6th, 2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceMS

Correction: These are scientist of PAKISTAN ORIGINS. They are doing research for other countries, hence other countries are investing and benefiting from it. Kinda irrelevant point that they are muslims. All cultures / nations have brilliant people and hence the capabilities to prosper - but what they actually do matters more

Peace PrinceMS

Yeah ... It has been a regular thing for some time now that academic institutes in the West benefit from researchers who are mostly expats from Desi lands.

The leg work is done by Amjad Sheikhs and the Nobels go to John Fletchers.

One is the Quantum Mechanic the other is the Jinn .... hahahaha!

divine-light · Jan 7th, 2008, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PrinceMS

Correction: These are scientist of PAKISTAN ORIGINS. They are doing research for other countries, hence other countries are investing and benefiting from it. Kinda irrelevant point that they are muslims. All cultures / nations have brilliant people and hence the capabilities to prosper - but what they actually do matters more

For your kind correction..Sabieh Anwar is the Asistant professor of Physics ..at LUMS...SSE,Lahore teaching Spins Physics.....and appointed PhD advisor by HEC....and Muhammad Abubakr...is the on the visiting faculty of LUMS..SSE.Lahore..and Government College School of Mathematical Sciences..and on the MAGill Campus..now a days ..for his 3rd Post Doc....

they are not runners ..who run from pakistan....understand !!!!!

psyah · Jan 7th, 2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by divine-light

For your kind correction..Sabieh Anwar is the Asistant professor of Physics ..at LUMS...SSE,Lahore teaching Spins Physics.....and appointed PhD advisor by HEC....and Muhammad Abubakr...is the on the visiting faculty of LUMS..SSE.Lahore..and Government College School of Mathematical Sciences..and on the MAGill Campus..now a days ..for his 3rd Post Doc....

they are not runners ..who run from pakistan....understand !!!!!

Peace (sign of) divine-light bro

Then they both hold quantum roles in life.

Azad · Jan 7th, 2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by huntedhuntsman

I read, a while back, an article about how Quantum Mechanics effects our daily lives.
There is a theory that our physical actions are always being duplicated somewhere out there in the space (in some other dimension). It was also mentioned that the duplication of our actions are performed by Jinns (or in other words "hamzaad").
Any one who knows about this phenomenon, please elaborate on it .

PunchingMonk · Jan 7th, 2008, 11:51 AM

To all the dudes.

you know some fields in science needs lots of money and resources to set up a lab. Say as setting up a space research center.

On the other hand some fields need very little money a and brain. Say as researching on math/computer/astronomy etc.

The reason I am saying that is if any of has ever has expertise in one of those fields he should consider transferring to our home land.
Now The reason I said that(last time lol), I know for a fact, once some engineers in army approached management. They had a plan to to study "Digital signal Processing"(an advance field in Electronics/ discreet math) from France.
When Army management contacted University in france, they simply refused it. Because they didn't want to train pakistani in that field.
There are no big secrets about that field but still.

So brother If you or any one you know is up for that kind of task please convince them to pay some thing back to motherland.

hareem01 · Jan 7th, 2008, 11:54 AM

So whats up with that "hamzaad"?

PunchingMonk · Jan 7th, 2008, 12:02 PM

^ I don't that, But I do know this. Quran have some most advance ideas in physics. Few of them is know to scientists, Most of them are not.
Quran always talk about time not being constant. Like time goes by on different speed on different places. If you could go such a place and come back in 20 mins, we all may be gone. May be 200 would be passed on earth.
We don't have many muslim scientist researching inspired by quran. But some time if you listen to wildest ideas of non muslim scientists , you feel like ohhhhhhh thats way.
You feel you have been told that already.

hin33 · Jan 7th, 2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by knockout_artist

^ I don't that, But I do know this. Quran have some most advance ideas in physics. Few of them is know to scientists, Most of them are not.
Quran always talk about time not being constant. Like time goes by on different speed on different places. If you could go such a place and come back in 20 mins, we all may be gone. May be 200 would be passed on earth.
We don't have many muslim scientist researching inspired by quran. But some time if you listen to wildest ideas of non muslim scientists , you feel like ohhhhhhh thats way.
You feel you have been told that already.

yes exactlyyyy

Einstein predicted that clocks run slower in high gravity fields. A clock on the Sun would run slower than an Earth clock because of relativistic effects...

I am not sure where but i remmember knowing that the a day would be like a yr long and yrs would be hundreds of yrs compared to our times now.. after we die and end up somewhere in the space...on the day of judgement ..

TLK · Jan 7th, 2008, 12:21 PM

^^ But in that islamic reference, the day would be years long from the perspective of the one who is there.

In Einstien's theory, the day would be long in high gravity field, from the perspective of someone who is observing that form outsode that frame of reference. The one who is right there wont feel a difference.

Neverthless, I agree that with both of you that Quran gives references that are so close to what today's science is telling us

PunchingMonk · Jan 7th, 2008, 12:22 PM

@hin33 yes , I always find this question funny "what was there before allah" I mean allah created time(known fact-time was created during bigbang), when there was no time there was no before and after.
And yes I do believe when we die we are moved to a different part of universe. You should really watch movie "Contact".
I strongly recommend it. I find it fascinating when non muslim people end up endorsing islamic ideology .

hin33 · Jan 7th, 2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TLK

In Einstien's theory, the day would be long in high gravity field, from the perspective of someone who is observing that form outsode that frame of reference. The one who is right there wont feel a difference.

in both the cases.. time ticks slower in the space :dohh: we will feel a difference cose we will remmember how short our days were here on earth ..

hareem01 · Jan 7th, 2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hin33

in both the cases.. time ticks slower in the space :dohh: we will feel a difference cose we will remmember how short our days were here on earth ..

But when the dead will wake up on the Day of Judgement they will think that they slept only for some hours. I don't know if this makes any sense as I haven't understood the whole topic.

PunchingMonk · Jan 7th, 2008, 12:42 PM

hareem suppose you have knifes. you keep one with you, and one where time passes by on different speed.
After 20 years your knife could be rusted and stuff.
Other knife could be still as good as new.
Thats whole thing apply on human/souls too.
Time passes on a different speed on different points of universe.

TLK · Jan 7th, 2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hin33

in both the cases.. time ticks slower in the space :dohh: we will feel a difference cose we will remmember how short our days were here on earth ..

No no hin ... that is exactly what the theory says. Your body or mind will not feel any difference.

and BTW, if you are in such high gravity place where one day is equal to one year, the weight of your body would be such that you will collapse to the ground. All your bones would be shatterred.

It will be like if a 18 wheeler is on my shoulders. That is probably the kind of weight I would be feeling in a High gravity place like such.

I dont think that judgemnet day can be explained through scientifc theories.

Oh Boy, its like a deja vu all over again, This converstaion sound somewhat familiar

divine-light · Jan 8th, 2008, 06:41 AM

it is sai