2012 the end of the world? - Page 2

Dushwari · Jul 20th, 2008, 11:34 AM

sounds like a great plan.

planting a tree on earth is a virtue at any time,
especially in hard times.
it enables one to know, that one can take care of life.

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Originally Posted by SindSagar

..........So Every One Plan to Plant a Tree on Thursday December 20th, 2012............

Why is that you may ask...................

There is this Hadith I heard from a scholar.......

some one asked Rasul Allah ......

If you knew that Qayyamah is going to be tomorrow....what would you do?

Rasul Allah

...replied......I would plant a Tree!..

Think about that.......has a lot of hidden meaning in it......

K337 · Jul 20th, 2008, 03:03 PM

well theres so much still to come

like the dawn to dajal and all those events.i am not very well aware of those 11/12 things that has to happen b4 Qayamat but i think 2012 isnt the end of the world .baki Allah knows better

PrinceMS · Jul 20th, 2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by maverick123

hehe...yea that's why I dont believe it because religiously it doesn't make any sense. Although I do think that the cycle of earth will change and there will be a lot of earthquakes, floods and weather changes. There might be disasters but that will not be the end of the world.

Correction: Religous scripture doesn't make sense LOGICALLY. Religion is based on BELIEF not Logic (for most people). Belief could be as illogical as human imagination

@K337: Perdiction is HARAM in Islam - How come we have these perdiction about end of the world? Catch 22?

@Frozen Fire: Bhai Jaan , ap ki shadi darkhat say kerwa dein? Saanp bhi mer jaye, bansari bhi na tootay?

maverick123 · Jul 20th, 2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceMS

Correction: Religous scripture doesn't make sense LOGICALLY. Religion is based on BELIEF not Logic (for most people). Belief could be as illogical as human imagination

@K337: Perdiction is HARAM in Islam - How come we have these perdiction about end of the world? Catch 22?

@Frozen Fire: Bhai Jaan , ap ki shadi darkhat say kerwa dein? Saanp bhi mer jaye, bansari bhi na tootay?

hmm so what r u really trying to say? that it's false or it could be true?
when I said religiously it doesn't make sense, I meant there's so much more that still needs to happen before the world ends According to Qur'an and some signs of Qayamat by our Prophet. And Yes Religion is based on Belief but I do not find anything in Islam that's not logical.

SindSagar · Jul 20th, 2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by maverick123

Very interesint. Would you be able to describe the hidden meaning? Im trying to figure it out but cant.

I think Dushwari made a good comment about that, one can only guess at the hidden meaning............

Dushwari:"sounds like a great plan.

planting a tree on earth is a virtue at any time,
especially in hard times.
it enables one to know, that one can take care of life. "

Me not being a scholar my interpretation is our Holy Prophet was trying to tell us ......that we should do good deeds at every oppurtunity...and not be worried about the end of the world....since no one knows when that will happen........and people had ask him this question....so many times...and his answer was always......it is close but only Allah knows........like when He would say....Plan as if you are going to live 100 years......but act as if you were going to die tomorrow!

Your President · Jul 21st, 2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenFire

the real question is , will i get married by then?

... im still bachelor

..

LOL

PrinceMS · Jul 22nd, 2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by maverick123

I do not find anything in Islam that's not logical.

lol I can answer that, but I will stay put

Overall - yes its an amazing religion.

K337 · Jul 24th, 2008, 09:15 PM

i know that is y i said God knows better.

3elwa2000 · Oct 3rd, 2008, 05:44 PM

no one knows when will the world end except god

dutch_paki · Oct 7th, 2008, 12:21 PM

Didnt the mayan world end ages ago?

EcoShan · Oct 7th, 2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceMS

lol I can answer that, but I will stay put

Overall - yes its an amazing religion.

Go ahead and do so brother
Islam is the only religion on the face of the earth thats 100% logical.

go ahead ane mention ur concern and insha allah with the guidence of my Almightly Lord i will try my best to answer that.

if islam wasnt logical i wont follow it.

AhmedNSX · Oct 8th, 2008, 03:54 PM

ins't it said in the Quran that no one can predict the day of judgment but the Almighty Allah S.W.T?

if so then I'd say these are false predictions but I must admit with so much happening predicted in one year sure does make it very interesting.

but in the end Allah S.W.T knows best.

AhmedNSX · Oct 8th, 2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cricketplaya

oh noo!!! the 21st of December, 2012 is a FRIDAY! run for your lives!!!!!!!!!!

Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said, "Friday is the lord of days and the chief of them in Allah's sight, being greater in Allah's sight than the day of sacrifice and the day of breaking the fast. It has five distinguishing characteristics: on it Allah created Adam, on it Allah sent Adam to the Earth, on it Allah took Adam in death, it contains a time at which no one will ask for anything without Allah giving it, so long as he does not ask for anything
unlawful, and on it the last hour will come. There is no angel near Allah's presence, nor sky, nor earth, nor winds, nor mountains, nor sea which do not fear Friday."

I agree with you completely, I did read some where that it will be on a Friday when the Sun will rise from the west and settle in the east, December 21st 2012 Friday might just be that day but only Allah S.W.T knows best.

Lois Lane · Oct 8th, 2008, 11:06 PM

damn i have only 4 yrs left and during that time all I wil be able to do is finish my residency .. damn not enuff time .. gotta go gotta go!!

sTaLkEr · Oct 9th, 2008, 08:25 PM

na yaar...2012 mein i'm getting married so the world starts for me at that point rather than ending

legbreakgoogly · Oct 17th, 2008, 09:06 PM

To have any belief other then the end of time will occur solely when Allah wishes is to be in kufr.

Such doomsday statements are not worth the time spent on them.

khanabadoshpk · Oct 26th, 2008, 04:05 PM

2012 threat looks like internet hoax.
Please follow the link.

Foresight of Hindsight: Scientist Responds to 2012 End-of-World Hype

curious101 · Nov 9th, 2008, 08:51 AM

Every couple of years, we get this world will end on yadda, yadda, yadda
remember it was suppose to end on the 6/06/2006 but yet we still live,
ppl need to stop predicting and start living

Xenophanez · Nov 9th, 2008, 02:59 PM

oh boy.. dun tell this to my banks.

navaidishere · Nov 12th, 2008, 02:05 AM

Our world has a shelf life of 6-6.5 billion years before its goes kaa-BOOM. Among those 3.5+ billion years have passed so we still have 3-2.5 billion years left. The whole notion of time is basically flawed and to honest with you, our current understand of time is still in development. For example, do you know the further you move away from planet earth or gravity, the slower the time moves? There are "missing spots" in our time and that's why we constantly align time on earth with "space time". Tinker a bit about time zones, if you are interested to further pursue this.

As for the mayan calender ending on 2012, I believe mayans had trouble with their concepts of time as well. They combined astronomy with time to do exactly what we are doing now i.e. aligning time with space. So nothing fancy going on there. Its just they followed the moon and we are backing sun.

noblefuse · Nov 12th, 2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by maverick123

has anyone here heard anything about 2012? If not, here is what's been goin around not sure if it's true through:
According to the Mayan calendar, the Maya believed that their world would end on Dec 21, 2012. Of all the dates put forth by prophets and cultures for a doomsday, this is one with an authentic almost eerie feel to it. But what will happen? A global cataclysm is one possibility.
Some say: the earth changes it's cycle after 2600,000 years and the cycle of 2600,000 years will be completed in 2012 which will cause floods, earthquakes and solar storms. I'm sure there have been threads here about 2012 but my question is:
Is 2012 doomsday for real? if not doomsday what major changes will occur on Earth? Please share your thoughts.
Thanks,

the global crisis is over energy- it shall continue until a solution is found- nations are in war now over energy-your northwest province feels it- soon many more unfortunately-

i am the messenger-

i solved energy crisis- it would be nice if children of god would uncover- but as always i guess- you must learn the hard way

[SIZE=1] [/SIZE][SIZE=3]Hello, my name is Solomon Azar- I HAVE FOUND THE ROAD TO SAFE CLEAN NUCLEAR FUSION- When this is found and understood- the energy crisis will end- I have been looking at this system since 2002 and it is perfect in every way. I finished my experiments April-2007. I have since that time tried to the best of my abilities to inform many people upon the net- there is no question It would be nice if concerned citizens would offer suggestions or help provoke a university to simply repeat my experiment to end the energy crisis- 19 months and I still wait as the world crumbles from lack of abundant clean energy.[/SIZE]

navaidishere · Nov 12th, 2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by noblefuse

the global crisis is over energy- it shall continue until a solution is found- nations are in war now over energy-your northwest province feels it- soon many more unfortunately-

i am the messenger-

i solved energy crisis- it would be nice if children of god would uncover- but as always i guess- you must learn the hard way

[SIZE=1] [/SIZE][SIZE=3]Hello, my name is Solomon Azar- I HAVE FOUND THE ROAD TO SAFE CLEAN NUCLEAR FUSION- When this is found and understood- the energy crisis will end- I have been looking at this system since 2002 and it is perfect in every way. I finished my experiments April-2007. I have since that time tried to the best of my abilities to inform many people upon the net- there is no question It would be nice if concerned citizens would offer suggestions or help provoke a university to simply repeat my experiment to end the energy crisis- 19 months and I still wait as the world crumbles from lack of abundant clean energy.[/SIZE]

Energy Crisis?? Refer to Hubbert's peak. There's tons of geographical data and if doesn't interest you or hard for you to grasp. Go for James Howard Kunstler, easy reads. The publication have been around since 1970s and they point to peak oil production.

Alternative/Clean/Sustainable Energy are all vast subjects in themselves and their implementation in Urban setting is another issue but most promising energy sources are in development stage and not available commercially. Even once they become available commercially, an expert industry needs to be developed around it to make them more widely usable. Change is a process and not a single step.

As for your solution, we're still waiting to know what is it

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Originally Posted by Solomon Azar

Hello, my name is Solomon Azar - I have put together many signs and connections to form the big picture-- we have been seeded upon this planet by way of spirit into a life form of man and given one primary mission- to cultivate this planet to complete utopia- thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven-We have been given the gift of free will thru the image of god- our time here is completely of faith as a test of growth-i believe i have uncovered a symbolic discovery of unlimited clean energy of using water via nuclear fusion upon palm sunday 2007- I have been shown many signs after this date-in the beginning it was two sticks for fire- now- i propose two electrodes for unlimited clean energy- it is energy which fuels a world for comfort-life-stability-coupled with laws from the heavens we have lived our lives- we are all messengers of god if we listen-we are communicated with thru our dreams-coincidental moments-etc- you would be lucky to have one handful in which you swear to be divinely inspired in your entire life-our time is a test and we are by far left alone in order to see how we help one another- do not expect the heavens to fix mans problems- it is the heavens who watch us fix our own- we have everything upon this magical blue planet- it is our duty as man to live up to our potential- my first name means peace- my last name is the father of Abraham-father of arab and jews- it is also the name of fire in the first religion of zorasterian to this day-in the beginning is a story of brotherhood between cain and able- in this age of enlightenment we shall be called together under god and see what the brothers of Issac and Ishmael do in the middle east- it is in the interests of all human beings to support its unification-as it is the desire all nations shall be under one God- There is no question- I have been guided as a human being upon my time here- I am a messenger of GOD- -I lived my entire life with the Christ in my heart- Therefore a strong light always shined in my mind on all actions in life-that is part of the gift of free will- i lived a full life and taught to see it from a perspective of the heavens- I come in the name of peace-upon the days of my scientific vindication- one in which the energy crisis is gone- i will start formal proceedings as a messenger of GOD and initiate a formal peace treaty in the name of god upon all nations- if it is conceivable to have nation leaders strike alliances between one another for peace-it is Gods will to have one complete alliance of all nations under God- the days of war have come to an end-unlimited health care for everyone without questions-I do not come with the ability to walk on water-but to deliver it as unlimited energy- I am like you-I was taught to say we are all each one of us a miracle- we are made in the image of God- therefore -let us act accordingly- we are all the same-the holy spirit is in me completely-what is in you- we will together strike peace in the name of god-the christ-the light of peace for all mankind-utopia comes now-TIME WILL TELL... more crap follows and this does not look like science to me