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Old Jul 8th, 2008, 09:55 AM   #21 (permalink)  
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......So why are we so concerned about Homo's...

If you believe in Darwin......then homos are no longer going up the ladder of human evolution as a species...............they by definition are practicing..

Un Natural selection........:biggthumb

Huh?

Most gay men produce healthy sperm and most gay lesbians produce healthy eggs and both can produce children, they aren't a different species.

what you are saying is that infertile men and woman are no longer going up the ladder of human evolution...which is a cruel thing to say.






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Old Jul 8th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #22 (permalink)  
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^Prove it.

Islam does NOT permit any such thing. People often commit acts that not only go against the norms of the nature, but are in absolute collision with what the Faith teaches.
What are you talking about? Please get your dirty mind out of the gutter and stop thinking of male homosexuality as a man having anal sex with another man. Sodomy is forbidden in Islam, we already know that. But "boy love" homosexuality or even pedophelia, as in older men lusting and fondling little boy pearls [as in 52:24], is not forbidden. Prove to me it is forbidden and you'll have a case.






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Old Jul 8th, 2008, 03:43 PM   #23 (permalink)  
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:biggthumb.. don't forget this civilization is equipped with breakthrough in fertility in the form of test tube babies.
..Right you are........so the question still remains whether....test tube babies is what mankind wants?







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Old Jul 8th, 2008, 03:44 PM   #24 (permalink)  
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stop thinking of male homosexuality as a man having anal sex with another man. .
Man just when i thought we had heard everthing about homosexuality ....... you come up with another original .... so what is male homosexuality






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Old Jul 8th, 2008, 03:52 PM   #25 (permalink)  
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Huh?

.which is a cruel thing to say.

.........it is called Evulotion/Natural Selection....if you do not reproduce.....your gene pool will run dry and be left behind.in the dust............






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Old Jul 8th, 2008, 08:51 PM   #26 (permalink)  
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Would you like your own son to be a homo? Would you encourage him to have sex with men?
ur comment makes u seem narrow minded..please do not use deragatory remarks to describe someone's sexual orientation..god made them that way..god made homosexuals and god made khusras..what if god made you one of these?..u wouldnt be hatin so much then?..now would you?







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Old Jul 9th, 2008, 12:30 AM   #27 (permalink)  
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What are you talking about? Please get your dirty mind out of the gutter and stop thinking of male homosexuality as a man having anal sex with another man. Sodomy is forbidden in Islam, we already know that. But "boy love" homosexuality or even pedophelia, as in older men lusting and fondling little boy pearls [as in 52:24], is not forbidden. Prove to me it is forbidden and you'll have a case.
Did it occur to you that, the verse you've cited maybe talking about the females having boy servants? Where does it say "older men will have young boys"?

Your passion to somehow find legitimacy for Homosexuality in Islam is really pathetic. Even more disgusting that you cite a verse from The Holy Quran to somehow suggest pedophilia is allowed in Islam.

Perhaps you have comprehension issues, so let me reiterate for you, Culturally homosexuality maybe acceptable because it has always been present, but faithwise it is not, no matter how you put it.

Gay community has drawn the attention of even the heavy contenders of Presidency by having them weigh in their opinion on the issue. So, socially they're not only an acceptable part of society, but apparently making a strong stand for their recognition in every walk of life.







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Old Jul 9th, 2008, 12:58 AM   #28 (permalink)  
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pundit jee, china ne aap ko kya keh diya joh un kee peechey bhi par gaye?






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Old Jul 9th, 2008, 02:11 AM   #29 (permalink)  
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..Right you are........so the question still remains whether....test tube babies is what mankind wants?
Test tube babies is the last resort for the impotent parents so no question arise of what Human kind wants its what the individual wants.

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pundit jee, china ne aap ko kya keh diya joh un kee peechey bhi par gaye?
As this is world affair forum so wants to shed some light on whats going in our neighboring country China.






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Old Jul 9th, 2008, 02:58 AM   #30 (permalink)  
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What are you talking about? Please get your dirty mind out of the gutter and stop thinking of male homosexuality as a man having anal sex with another man. Sodomy is forbidden in Islam, we already know that. But "boy love" homosexuality or even pedophelia, as in older men lusting and fondling little boy pearls [as in 52:24], is not forbidden. Prove to me it is forbidden and you'll have a case.

This is the fitnah of our world. People who dont even read the proof they claim to support their arguments. No where in that verse, or in the surah does it permit homosexuality or pedophelia.

Honestly, do we need to teach you how to read simple english?

They will be servants, as did the kings of the past in their courts who will fetch for them food, drink, anything they desire.

How did you twist that to think that pedophelia was allowed? Are you seriously sick?







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Old Jul 9th, 2008, 04:50 AM   #31 (permalink)  
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ur comment makes u seem narrow minded..please do not use deragatory remarks to describe someone's sexual orientation..god made them that way..god made homosexuals and god made khusras..what if god made you one of these?..u wouldnt be hatin so much then?..now would you?
Kiddo you are talking about eunuchs or hermaphrodite, I'm talking about homosexuality and homos. And talking about God, God doesn't allow men having sex with men and women having sex with women, now grow up.







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Old Jul 9th, 2008, 01:44 PM   #32 (permalink)  
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How did you twist that to think that pedophelia was allowed?
It was allowed. Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] in Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64. And in Abu Dawud, Volume 2, Number 2116 where Aisha states it more specifically.

And it's still allowed [video dated June 19, 2008]. If you have any doubts as to what consumate means, pay attention to the part where he, a scholar in Islam, says marriage is two things: "First, we're talking about the marriage contract itself is one thing and while consumating the marriage - having sex with the wife for the first time - is another thing." He sure as heck proves what happened to Aisha at age 9.







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^He's not a scholar.






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Old Jul 9th, 2008, 02:15 PM   #34 (permalink)  
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^He's not a scholar.
Deflect. Deny. Deflect. Deny.

He's a Saudi Marriage Officiant whose job it is to witness the consent of intended spouses and to ensure their marriage is permisable under Islamic law. If he doesnt look like an expert on Islamic marriage requirements to you, then I wonder who does. Mama? Baba?






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Deflect. Deny. Deflect. Deny.

He's a Saudi Marriage Officiant whose job it is to witness the consent of intended spouses and to ensure their marriage is permisable under Islamic law. If he doesnt look like an expert on Islamic marriage requirements to you, then I wonder who does. Mama? Baba?
He's Saudi whatever but still he's not a scholar, can you please provide his name and biography, his educational background etc.

Some people also think that Usama Bin Laden has an authority in Islam but in reality he doesn't as he hasn'r done any studies in Islamic Law.






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It was allowed. Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] in Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64. And in Abu Dawud, Volume 2, Number 2116 where Aisha states it more specifically.
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None of these ahadith prove your point.






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Deflect. Deny. Deflect. Deny.
Isn't that what you're doing?

You first stated that homosexuality was allowed preferably with younger children. And then to prove your point you somehow jumped to the marriage issue and sighted the marriage of the Prophet Muhammad (sas) with our Mother Ayesha (rah), where marriage was consummated when Ayesha (rah) was past her age of maturity..

Please explain how does this in any way or form, even attempt to prove your disgusting and filthy hypothesis?







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Kiddo you are talking about eunuchs or hermaphrodite, I'm talking about homosexuality and homos. And talking about God, God doesn't allow men having sex with men and women having sex with women, now grow up.
Anyways I dont really care if people are gay or not.

They don't bother me and I don't bother them.

Live and Let Live.

But one thing I will admit, I find two girls having sex with each other incredibly hot.






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Anyways I dont really care if people are gay or not.

They don't bother me and I don't bother them.

Live and Let Live.

But one thing I will admit, I find two girls having sex with each other incredibly hot.
You pervert , how could you. !! You are the first man to think that bad....







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Anyways I dont really care if people are gay or not.

They don't bother me and I don't bother them.

Live and Let Live.

But one thing I will admit, I find two girls having sex with each other incredibly hot.
oh i didn't ask you what do you do in your spare time.







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