It is unfortunate that some peoples are targeting only India for Homosexuality, as it is a global and ancient phenomena across the world. Comments are invited.
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there is no question of having him son or daughter if himself being homo. even he does and support homos then i dont think he will have any problem about his off spring being homo .
Yes. You can dislike and hate this bad action of him.
so other than that what would you would do. Homosexuality is not accepted in India, one should not encourage it. But to deny and prosecute them unfairly should also not to be encouraged. I think this march was most likely as a result of showing the general public that there exist such kind of people in India and they are good human beings and they should not be prosecuted unfairly.
Would you like your own son to be a homo? Would you encourage him to have sex with men?
How My preference will affect him? Do you think ppl who are gays or lesbians ,there family wouldn't have put pressure or shown them the other way. Its the way a person is born you can't do anything.
^I agree. I think it's not easy being of a different sexual orientation, where your preference or choice is minority. I'm sure their families must have put plenty of pressure on them. Heck, many of the Asian families demonize anyone who is not in the norm of the society.
I don't endorse torture or unfair treatment for them just because of their sexual preference. They're a part of the society and they should be treated as such. They should be educated on the possible diseases or preventive measures so they can then be more aware of the choices they've made and be a mainstream part of the civilized society.
This is an age-old phenomenon and it has not just risen overnight.
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I'll have you know that homosexuality [pederasty as in boy-love] was not only prevalent in Ancient Islamic civilizations but also socially acceptable. Uncover your eyes and realize that homosexuality does not necessarily mean sodomy. Homosexuality, as in men having an erotic relationship with other men [specifically children] persists even to this day as something that is Islamically acceptable.
Islam does NOT permit any such thing. People often commit acts that not only go against the norms of the nature, but are in absolute collision with what the Faith teaches.
It is true that it's an ancient culture within every culture that existed for a very long time, perhaps longer than any known religion today. People of Lut are a prime example of this. They had a Prophet among them who would guide them and warn them, but they did not stop this culture. They were doomed.
If i say anymore this will become a religious debate. So lets leave it at that.
Culturally it maybe accepted, but put it on the scale of faith, you won't find the balance.
Homosexuality is considered as sin in Islam but according to some minority viewpoint Qu'ran speaks out against homosexual lust, and is silent on homosexual love. Writer Irshad Manji, a lesbian, has expressed the view that homosexuality is permissible within Islam.
Specific verses include which suggest Homosexuality is a evil act or sin:
And Lut, when he said to his tribe: "Do you commit an obscenity not perpetrated before you by anyone in all the worlds? You come with lust to men instead of women. You are indeed a depraved tribe." The only answer of his tribe was to say: "Expel them from your city! They are people who keep themselves pure!" So We rescued him and his family—except for his wife. She was one of those who stayed behind. We rained down a rain upon them. See the final fate of the evildoers! — Qur'an, 7:80–84
The disease is disliked but not the person. Only treatment which can be tried is change of environment, teaching politely and making that person involved in other healthy activities.
Many of these people may even be bisexual so they find it prefect when are married to opposite sex. The thoughts about homo may come or recur but they may or can be suppressed through proper training and diversion of mind.
If a son of a parent is homosexual then the parents cannot do anything about they would still love their son but they have all the right not to like the action.
Now if the son keeps coming with his boyfriend and demands that his boyfriend be accepted or the action must be accepted......................the parents have all the right to draw the line if they choose to.
Making a public show and encouraging in the name of AWARENESS is just senseless...in my opinion. Thats not against freedom of expression. Thats just keeping it where it should belong.
Why should majority be made offended by these abnormal minority?
Its not being closed minded.
Its being choosy. What someone likes and does not like.
Why should anyone apologize for not liking certain abnormal and unnatural human behaviour?
It boggles my mind. Don't we have rights too?
People did not want to see that silly person on TV in heejra accent specially when their kids are around.
(I remember one politician making comments to have a date with this heejra person during interview..quite hilarious and obnoxious moment at the same time)
Too often we see these kind of people having too much exposure and majority just gets walked all over in the name of freedom of expression or whatever these people call it.
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It is unfortunate that some peoples are targeting only India for Homosexuality, as it is a global and ancient phenomena across the world. Comments are invited.
You could more or less say the same about pedophilia would you encourage that ?
Even if Homosexuality is a global and ancient phenomena across the world, still does not mean it should be accepted as proper.
Would you consider it normal behaviour ?
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You could more or less say the same about pedophilia would you encourage that ?
Even if Homosexuality is a global and ancient phenomena across the world, still does not mean it should be accepted as proper.
Would you consider it normal behaviour?
First of all no one is encouraging Homo-sexuality. Homo-sexuality is a punishable (Indian Penal Code) by life imprisonment under Section 377 of the Unnatural offenses act, only if proved. But as we are democratic country, here everyone has a say and its very hard to prove someone Homo-sexual in the court as this practice is limited inside their four walls that is the reason no one has been punished under this law so far.
And whether homo-sexuality is good or bad practice, i Think this forum lacks in terms of peoples participation by real Homo-sexual person who can present their point of view. In democracy, power is in the hand of people not the Government, so its totally up to the people to decide to how much extend Homo-sexuality is acceptable with in the society.
The reason why no one has come openly against Homosexuality is because India has much bigger problem to worry about.
In India, Sex is categorized under three heads:
1) male
2) female
3) third sex (transgenders, homosexuals, transsexuals, the intersexed) only by Birth.
Regarding Pedophilia:
It is defined as a psychological disorder. Pedophiliac effected peoples need medical help.
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The disease is disliked but not the person. Only treatment which can be tried is change of environment, teaching politely and making that person involved in other healthy activities.
This is all very silly. It's like saying that you (assuming you are hetrosexual) could be taught to be gay.
Homosexuality is not exclusive to humans it's seen in nature as well. With all the problems in the world why choose to make another, why focus some much time on homosexuals? The fact that some people want to control other peoples sexuality in which there is no victim is mind boggling and shows such people have serious sexual insecurity.
If god determines one activity is a sin so be it, let him judge and decide while you focus on fixing your own sins and flaws instead of condeming others.
If you believe in Darwin......then homos are no longer going up the ladder of human evolution as a species...............they by definition are practicing..
If you believe in Darwin......then homos are no longer going up the ladder of human evolution as a species...............they by definition are practicing..
Un Natural selection........
.. don't forget this civilization is equipped with breakthrough in fertility in the form of test tube babies.
If you believe in Darwin......then homos are no longer going up the ladder of human evolution as a species...............they by definition are practicing..
Un Natural selection........
Huh?
Most gay men produce healthy sperm and most gay lesbians produce healthy eggs and both can produce children, they aren't a different species.
what you are saying is that infertile men and woman are no longer going up the ladder of human evolution...which is a cruel thing to say.
Islam does NOT permit any such thing. People often commit acts that not only go against the norms of the nature, but are in absolute collision with what the Faith teaches.
What are you talking about? Please get your dirty mind out of the gutter and stop thinking of male homosexuality as a man having anal sex with another man. Sodomy is forbidden in Islam, we already know that. But "boy love" homosexuality or even pedophelia, as in older men lusting and fondling little boy pearls [as in 52:24], is not forbidden. Prove to me it is forbidden and you'll have a case.
.........it is called Evulotion/Natural Selection....if you do not reproduce.....your gene pool will run dry and be left behind.in the dust............
......So why are we so concerned about Homo's...
....... you come up with another original .... so what is male homosexuality