Shak killS

recently some anti Pakistan entity listed a video to "shame" Pakistan without looking to the facts and taking this henios crime and blowing out of propotion.
here are some facts, who is at the top.

NationMaster - Rapes (most recent) by country

Showing latest available data. Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 United States: 95,136
#2 South Africa: 52,425
#3 Canada: 24,350
#4 Australia: 15,630
#5 India: 15,468
#6 Mexico: 14,373
#7 United Kingdom: 13,395
#8 Germany: 8,615
#9 France: 8,458
#10 Russia: 6,978
#11 Korea, South: 6,139
#12 Peru: 5,968
#13 Spain: 5,664
#14 Zimbabwe: 5,567
#15 Thailand: 4,020
#16 Argentina: 3,036
#17 Venezuela: 2,931
#18 Italy: 2,543
#19 Belgium: 2,436
#20 Japan: 2,357

zxcvb

This is providing data without any context.

All this shows is that First world countries, women are free to go to the police and press rape charges.

Most women in 3rd world countries and especially muslim countries and even in India, will never ever go to the police to report rape charges.
Most of the time, the crime is never reported or is hushed up by the family.

Numb

^

true...

gesto

Violence against women should be condemned and severely punished.But can somebody see any muslim country in this?It's not because women are protected there but because of the strange laws.In many muslim countries,even in pakistan,a woman raped can not go to justice that freely because she has to produce witness for it.Otherwise it would be termed as an immoral act with the consent of the woman.So most of the women will not dare to seek justice.That's why countries like Pakistan is absent from this list or lying in the bottom.

Mostar95

Most rape cases in the west are reported on the weekends when those pub-goer ladies drink heavily and then spend some night with some one and in the morning they report it to police as a rape case.

Mostar95

No its wrong. Rape is not rampant in this counrty or it is lied in the bottom. Its quite rare here due to ban on wines which is the main cause of rape.

Amour

thats also true, Pakistan and other conservative societies not many will report the rape, but it is also true the Pakistan like countries has very lower rape overall because of women less exposure to single and independant lives that we have in the west and modern societies where reporting a rape is almost date rape cases over the weekend etc.

when a remote villages where many people are oppressed, more oftenly dominated by the powerfull clan in the area and rest are treated as animals.

now here rape is reported as Pakistan is the only country that has rape victims and crime. if its compared even all the un reported cases will still be very low compared to other socities. NGO and other people blow it out of propotions as promoting Pakistan nation or rapists. which is far from reality.

Amour

I agree with you, with people strongly coupled in family system and protection and no alcohal and bars, it is not rampant at all.

gesto

Wine is not the only source for this.Pak rape stories are either hidden or forced to close down by victimes themselves.

here is one example of on rape case,but got highlighted.


Pakistani Rape Case Goes to High Court

Another one

http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?reportid=28980

A good news.finally for women.....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle650041.ece

Kindly spot these lines from the above given link......
One woman is raped every two hours and one gang-raped every eight hours, according to the country’s independent Human Rights Commission).

(More than 2,000 women are in jail for intercourse — either victims of rape or those who have eloped to marry for love and have then been reported, usually by one of their parents).


It corroborates what I have said.

This means the plight of women...............So nobody can really claim anything..........

kamraj

I don't think so. Is this your opinion or there is some data to back it up?

gesto

Again plight of a pakistani woman in Saudi.It tells about the strange law!!!

teggy

Someone's blog is not a credible source.

Link removed.

hooda

if u add victims of karo-kari and honour killings ... u will make it to the top of the list...

ehtasab

Is karo-kari same as "rape"? Or again clutching at straws?

hooda

its more heinous than a rape..

kamraj

It is horrible to see how many thousands of rapes occur around the world! I somehow do not believe the numbers posted here - I think USA cannot be anywhere as bad as this list makes it out to be. There has to be a difference in how the numbers were arrived at. May be in the US a much higher percentage is reported whereas in other countries it may not be the case. However, teenage dating and date rapes are a bit more in the USA than countries where dating is not the norm

I also remember the president of Pakistan saying in press that many Pakistan women report they were raped to get a immigrant visa while at the same time papers were reporting that Pakistani women do not report when raped because the law is on the criminal's side and against the woman

ehtasab

I'm glad you didn't include other heinous crimes, thank you ... I thought we were doing apple to apple comparison.

hooda

wats ur point here??

ehtasab

The point, rape crimes are different than karo-kari and should be part of different stats, same goes for honor-killings.

underthedome

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hooda

honour killings and karo kari are non existent in almost all the countries who made it to the list...these are no lessr crimes than a rape.

so if u include them pakistan will make it to the list...

underthedome

In the U.S. you don't need 4 witnesses for rape to occur. Nor are rape victims viewed as the one who should feel shame after being raped nor are their families shamed.

When looking at a list like this and comparing countries you need to keep in mind how a rape victim is treated by the society and the system of each country. That is going to figure into the number of women who come in to report that they were in fact rape. Women who are raped in the U.S. are much more likely to report it than those raped in Pakistan for those very reasons.

psyah

Rape is high everywhere in the world and the way to curb it is to make the punishment for it severe so the rapists fear it. The pitfall of Pakistan and the West who do not report it is because the culture in Pak is far from Islamic and so is the West.

The people around in a village aught to report rape and stand as witnesses but they too do nothing. There is no compassion in people anymore not even in the family members who hush up their female victimised relatives at the same time we have open avenues within Pakistan that promote illicit sex and some of the elite are submerged in it.

teggy

^That's the idea. We had sort of a similar poll some time ago on whether Capital Punishment should be abolished altogether and most participants voted 'NO' because they believe that 1. Laws differ based on society 2. Severe punishments will keep people from committing crimes of higher degree.

So what it boils down to is 'If you can't do the time, don't do the crime'. Severe Punishment usually equals decreased crime rate.

ehtasab

What about Dowry victims in India? what about "Sati" (don't tell me it doesn't happen anymore)? Lets just stick to the crime under discussion.