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Oct 25th, 2009, 09:50 AM
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Until now the popular belief in india was that Muslims from across the border are in LeT waging their Jihad against indians. But now "some" people are coming out of this state of denial and realizing the problem is home grown.
Atrocities of indians in Kashmir have reached to such an extent that even young Hindu Jihadis have joined LeT to fight against indian army.
Just tip of the iceberg!
On tape: Hindu youth professing jehad- TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos
The Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) has no borders and now it appears to be moving beyond its communal boundaries as well. For long associated as an extremist Muslim group, the Lashkar is now roping in Hindus as well.
Caught on camera is an LeT district commander Wasim, who promises to wage jehad against the Indian state. However, this Lashkar terrorist is unlike most others. He is an Indian by birth and Wasim is in reality a Brahmin boy. His original name has been revealed as Subhash Sharma. And reports suggest that Wasim is not the only Hindu foot soldier in jehad waged by the terrorist outfits.
11 other Hindu terrorists are on the wanted list, accused planning and executing terror attacks and killing innocent civilians and security forces. And those who have managed to escape the terror fold reveal the LeT's terror plans.
Like Chuni Lal, who was abducted by the Harkat-ul-Ansar was promised a luxurious life, but he managed to flee. He said, "There were two Harkat militants, Raju and Ramesh. They said if I pick up gun I will get everything in life."
TIMES NOW's Correspondent Pradeep Dutta reported, "Hindu youth's joining jehadi outfits has more to do with compulsions than conviction. But it brings home the subtle but stark truth that militancy has lost its moorings in ideology and faith and turned into a money-minting business."
Please join me in the campaign: NO TRANSIT ROUTE FOR INDIA!!
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Oct 25th, 2009, 11:08 AM
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and o b laden is inafact ombhai lalchandani....
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Oct 25th, 2009, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Marasi_Dee
And those who have managed to escape the terror fold reveal the LeT's terror plans.
Like Chuni Lal, who was abducted by the Harkat-ul-Ansar was promised a luxurious life, but he managed to flee. He said, "There were two Harkat militants, Raju and Ramesh. They said if I pick up gun I will get everything in life."
TIMES NOW's Correspondent Pradeep Dutta reported, "Hindu youth's joining jehadi outfits has more to do with compulsions than conviction. But it brings home the subtle but stark truth that militancy has lost its moorings in ideology and faith and turned into a money-minting business."
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see bolded sentences. your terrorists point a gun at the family and compel the boys to join them. Recently they tried that on a family and the family fought back, snatched the gun and shot the mujahideen to hell.
These guys when they escape are revealing LeT's screts....did you read that part? ISI must be annoyed.
you lost whatever point you were trying to score with that 'compulsion not conviction' part.
Try harder next time.
PS: BTW you and your other buddies (mo293 and Cm come to mind) are reminding me of W.E.Coyote - where it comes up with the stupidest schemes to score against the RoadRunner and gets banged up everytime because....well, it is just dumb!
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Oct 25th, 2009, 01:26 PM
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^^ Jalaludin let me spell it out for you:
Hindu Brahmin jihadis born and raised in india, waging their jihad against india is your home grown problem (and so are other hindu terrorist outfits, Maoists, Muslims and God knows who else).
Or do you want to suggest that Brahmin Hindus are siding with Pakistan - their worst enemy - to wage a war against india?
After all this is the argument you and your colleagues come up with when told about indian support to TTP terrorists.
Come out of this state of denial !!
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Oct 25th, 2009, 04:46 PM
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^ Marasi_Dee : thank you. it is all clear to me now. You can't read.
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Oct 25th, 2009, 05:52 PM
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^^ Burying your head in the sand will not change the reality.
And the reality is that indian Hindu Jihadis are joining LeT to fight against brutal indian army.
11 of them are now on the top wanted list.
And it is just the tip of the iceberg. With each passing day it is becoming bigger and bigger...
You can keep denying and make a fool of yourself, 
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Oct 25th, 2009, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jalaluddin
^ Marasi_Dee : thank you. it is all clear to me now. You can't read.
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Why do you treat him so bad, as if he can't read? 
meri manzil hai andhera...roshan saara jahaan hai....
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Oct 25th, 2009, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Marasi_Dee
^^ Burying your head in the sand will not change the reality.
And the reality is that indian Hindu Jihadis are joining LeT to fight against brutal indian army.
11 of them are now on the top wanted list.
And it is just the tip of the iceberg. With each passing day it is becoming bigger and bigger...
You can keep denying and make a fool of yourself, 
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Coming from a Pakistani  ... right now there are 10,000 "kosher" sunni muslims challenging the Pak army (and not to a kabbadi match !!!!) ... in the last few years i dont remeber how many have attainted "martydom" by blowing themselves up ...... and you are worried about 10 -11 hindu boys .... who it seems were given the "incentive" of a good life, as the report suggets.
Like Chuni Lal, who was abducted by the Harkat-ul-Ansar was promised a luxurious life, but he managed to flee. He said, "There were two Harkat militants, Raju and Ramesh. They said if I pick up gun I will get everything in life."
Well i don't think they would have fallen for the good life in heaven after death (being hindus) .... so perhaps the "virgins" would have been promised here on earth ........ ab bhai insan he hai 
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Oct 25th, 2009, 07:07 PM
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this is so bad
so young and cute child
and totally brainwashed by extreme fundamentalist hindu extremists
so sad anothing child lost.
Tere ishq ki inteha chahta hoon! Tere ishq ki intaha chaahata hoon. Meri saadgi
dekh kya chaahata hoon.
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Oct 26th, 2009, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by aam bandha
Coming from a Pakistani  ... right now there are 10,000 "kosher" sunni muslims challenging the Pak army (and not to a kabbadi match !!!!) ... in the last few years i dont remeber how many have attainted "martydom" by blowing themselves up ......
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We are well aware of terrorism in our country and TTP terrorists, we never deny that. Read the posts from me and many other Pakistanis to see that we not only acknowledge that, but are also aware who is training/finanicing/arming them.
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and you are worried about 10 -11 hindu boys .... who it seems were given the "incentive" of a good life, as the report suggets.
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Now comes the point, unlike Pakistanis, indians are in a deep state of denial and do not want to see the truth that there are Hindu jihadis who have joined the ranks of LeT to fight against indian army, for whatever reason!
Lashkare-e-Taiba is no more a millitant group consisting of Muslims, it has now... well ... Hindu Jihadis! 
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Oct 26th, 2009, 06:27 AM
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So basically they are Indians. Not Pakistanis. That makes life so much easier.
It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.
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Oct 26th, 2009, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Marasi_Dee
Now comes the point, unlike Pakistanis, indians are in a deep state of denial and do not want to see the truth that there are Hindu jihadis who have joined the ranks of LeT to fight against indian army, for whatever reason!
Lashkare-e-Taiba is no more a millitant group consisting of Muslims, it has now... well ... Hindu Jihadis! 
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What is you definition of denial? It seems your need to understand teh language before you make comments. Who is in denial here? This news has been brough out by Indian media !!!!! And if you had even botehred to read .... teh group they are part of islashkar e Toiba ... a Pakistan based terror group which has been banned by United Nations. So if you want peace in the region you know where action needs to be taken. If you want to kill the snake you should strike at the head ..... and that is in Muridke in Pakistan. As now eventhe MAericans are asking you ..... time to take concrete action against LeT.
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Oct 26th, 2009, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by aam bandha
What is you definition of denial? It seems your need to understand teh language before you make comments. Who is in denial here? This news has been brough out by Indian media !!!!!
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As wrote in the original post, "some" indians are coming out of this state of denial (unfortunately I can't say the same for any indian on GS though).
We have thousands of posts by indians blaming all this on Pakistan. But now "some" people in india has started to realize that the problem is home grown. And there must have gone something terribly wrong that Hindu Jihadis are joining LeT to fight against brutal indian army.
It is high time that you focus on that instead of blaming everything on Pakistan.
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Oct 27th, 2009, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by infiniti
Why do you treat him so bad, as if he can't read? 
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because his own opening piece says the hindu boys are forced and are not joining the terrorists voluntarily. It further says these boys escape and expose the terrorists.
Yet Marasi keeps arguing something else. If you don't want me to call him ill-read then what else can I call him?
It is this kind of stupidity that brings a bad name to all muslims
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Oct 27th, 2009, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Marasi_Dee
As wrote in the original post, "some" indians are coming out of this state of denial (unfortunately I can't say the same for any indian on GS though).
We have thousands of posts by indians blaming all this on Pakistan. But now "some" people in india has started to realize that the problem is home grown. And there must have gone something terribly wrong that Hindu Jihadis are joining LeT to fight against brutal indian army.
It is high time that you focus on that instead of blaming everything on Pakistan.
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any problem...i deny this statement,..... even if it is printed in a prominent news paper.
what do you think that the indian media is very authentic...i can give you many examples when our media (and any media) prints stories for rating and for covering the space....but then you will say that i must stick to the topic.
and for your Marasi_Dee information the 'jihadi' is a sacred term in your religious textx...you can not paste it on other communities.
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Oct 28th, 2009, 02:20 PM
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any problem...i deny this statement,..... .
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You are a free man and as such are entitled to remain in state of denial.
But thats not gonna change the truth that Hindu jihadis are joining LeT to fight against indian army (for whatever reason).
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Oct 28th, 2009, 11:48 PM
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