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Nov 1st, 2009, 03:47 PM
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Interesting article, suggesting that Indian paranoia runs deep. While it's true that the more assertive Chinese have stepped up the pressure, I highly doubt the possibility of any war unless India initiates any action along the border.
Pakistan is mired in the terrorist insurgency and in no way prepared to attack India. There is no reasoning or need for such an attack.
But hypothetically speaking, could India (even with Russian help) win against Pakistan + China?
India is preparing for possible war with China and Pakistan
Tensions have flared between both China and India militaries along their disputed 2,175 mile-long border, with both sides alleging more frequent troop incursions in recent weeks. China is upset when the Indian prime minister recently visit the disputed region. China considers an Indian-occupied piece of its own Tibetan Autonomous Region, has added flames to the fire. China of course already deeply resents the fact that the top Tibetan leader, and several hundred thousand exiled Tibetans, are allowed to reside in India.
Indias Maoist rebels are now present in 20 states and have evolved into a potent and lethal insurgency. In the last four years, the Maoists have killed more than 900 Indian security officers. Indian leaders are now preparing to deploy nearly 70,000 paramilitary officers to hunt down the guerrillas.The Maoists, however, do not want to secede or be absorbed. Their goal is to topple the system.
Indias rapid economic growth has made it an emerging global power but also deepened stark inequalities in society. Maoists accuse the government of trying to push tribal groups off their land to gain access to raw materials and have sabotaged roads, bridges and even an energy pipeline.
India is preparing the military for possible war with China and Pakistan. India and Russia have agreed two military pacts, including a 10-year deal on weapons, aircraft, and maintenance contracts potentially worth at least $5 billion, Indian defense officials said. India plans to spend $30 billion over the next five years to buy modern weapons systems and attack planes.
The agreement will certainly help as Russia needs a market and India needs a strategic reassurance to sort out relations that were going sour. India also wants to use the renewed focus on Russia as a counterweight to China, while a strong presence in South Asia could help Moscow keep an eye on China. India fears China is trying to encircle it as they jostle for resources and global influence.
China is a greater anxiety for Russia in the long run and politically it is desirable for India to strengthen relations with Russia
China has boosted military spending by more than 10 percent annually for almost two decades, and the official figure of $71 billion this year is thought by many analysts to represent only a portion of total defense spending. China announced plans to boost military spending by 14.9 percent this year, maintaining a longtime trend of annual double-digit percentage increases that have stirred concern in Washington and among Beijing's neighbors.
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Nov 1st, 2009, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pak-one
... But hypothetically speaking, could India (even with Russian help) win against Pakistan + China?...
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Ummm, why would Russia want to hurt China in anyway?
What's the value of China-Russia trade?
What's the value of Hindustan-Russia trade?
Is it China who's desparate to buy weapons from the US or Hindustan?
Can Hindustan provide access to warm waters to Russia or Pakistan?
That oil from Central Asia where all American forces have been kicked out from this year is now under Russian control, how do you think it's going to be transported out to the rest of the world?
What makes you think our military is even carrying out a serious expedition in Waziristan? It looks a bit hyped to me just to save America's face.
Our ISI Head was in Saudi Arabia a day or two ago to discuss a safe exit for the Americans out of Afghanistan. A safe exit also means an 'honourable exit'.
Currently, most Asians countries are becoming more and more pro-Russia and China. Hindustan seems to be the only nation in South Asia which is becoming more pro-American. It's like during the Cold War when Iran, Afghanistan, China and Hindustan were all pro-Soviet nations while Pakistan was the only pro-Western nation in the region. What a mistake that was!
Allahu-Akbar: Iraqis are now free to throw their boots at the Americans, when will Afghans get that freedom?
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Nov 1st, 2009, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pakistani Dragon
Ummm, why would Russia want to hurt China in anyway?
What's the value of China-Russia trade?
What's the value of Hindustan-Russia trade?
Is it China who's desparate to buy weapons from the US or Hindustan?
Can Hindustan provide access to warm waters to Russia or Pakistan?
That oil from Central Asia where all American forces have been kicked out from this year is now under Russian control, how do you think it's going to be transported out to the rest of the world?
Our ISI Head was in Saudi Arabia a day or two ago to discuss a safe exit for the Americans out of Afghanistan. A safe exit also means an 'honourable exit'.
Currently, most Asians countries are becoming more and more pro-Russia and China. Hindustan seems to be the only nation in South Asia which is becoming more pro-American. It's like during the Cold War when Iran, Afghanistan, China and Hindustan were all pro-Soviet nations while Pakistan was the only pro-Western nation in the region. What a mistake that was!
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I think i have to agree with you what u said:
What makes you think our military is even carrying out a serious expedition in Waziristan? It looks a bit hyped to me just to save America's face.
Tere ishq ki inteha chahta hoon! Tere ishq ki intaha chaahata hoon. Meri saadgi
dekh kya chaahata hoon.
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 02:04 AM
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To think that India is preparing for a war with China and Pakistan is just imagination running wild. India and China cannot afford a war right now. With the recession getting over and the markets improving it would be foolish for India to get into a war now.
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 02:25 AM
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Damn its a dangerous country India. U never know who they are going to bully in the comming years. Someone should contain the monster before its too late.
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by happyheart
Damn its a dangerous country India. U never know who they are going to bully in the comming years. Someone should contain the monster before its too late.
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U are right brother Khushdil, India is most dangerous country in the world indeed, most of its citizens are living suicide bombers brainwashed by religious preachers. The world should unite against its dangerous nation and throw it isolated. Why dont U tell ur most peaceful nation to snap all diplomatic ties with such dangerous nation? is there something wrong with ur policy makers that they cant sense the danger which U have sensed so effectively? Its time that Pakistan should lead the world against this dangerous nation and annihilate it by will of ALLAH.
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Raj_ind
U are right brother Khushdil, India is most dangerous country in the world indeed, most of its citizens are living suicide bombers brainwashed by religious preachers. The world should unite against its dangerous nation and throw it isolated. Why dont U tell ur most peaceful nation to snap all diplomatic ties with such dangerous nation? is there something wrong with ur policy makers that they cant sense the danger which U have sensed so effectively? Its time that Pakistan should lead the world against this dangerous nation and annihilate it by will of ALLAH.
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are you sure you are talking about India? 
भारत ने वर्ल्ड कप फाइनल में पाकिस्तान को धोया
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Raj_ind
U are right brother Khushdil, India is most dangerous country in the world indeed, most of its citizens are living suicide bombers brainwashed by religious preachers. The world should unite against its dangerous nation and throw it isolated. Why dont U tell ur most peaceful nation to snap all diplomatic ties with such dangerous nation? is there something wrong with ur policy makers that they cant sense the danger which U have sensed so effectively? Its time that Pakistan should lead the world against this dangerous nation and annihilate it by will of ALLAH.
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Nov 4th, 2009, 12:31 PM
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Oh wow look at that
Indians having fun
thats something new
after being frustrated for days and not being able to anwser anything sensible on GS
but again whatever makes them happy
Lets stick to the topic mates: India is preparing for possible war with China and Pakistan
I personally think that India is not strong enough to control Indian Occupied Kashmir let alone Pakistan or China.
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Nov 4th, 2009, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by happyheart
Lets stick to the topic mates: India is preparing for possible war with China and Pakistan .
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Let me assure you India is not planning a war against Chian or Pakistan ..... happy now 
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Nov 4th, 2009, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by aam bandha
Let me assure you India is not planning a war against Chian or Pakistan ..... happy now 
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oh thank you now i can go to bed and sleep like a baby.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
thank you so very much ......... lolz
you Indian are really good entertainers.
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Nov 4th, 2009, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by happyheart
oh thank you now i can go to bed and sleep like a baby.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
thank you so very much ......... lolz
you Indian are really good entertainers.
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Yeah you can sleep peacefully .... i see you are in Netherlands 
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Nov 4th, 2009, 03:44 PM
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Yeah you can sleep peacefully .... i see you are in Netherlands 
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yeah i can but not my muslim brother and sisters in India.
i wish they could sleep as peacefully as i can.
but they never know when an idiot like Modi can turn their city/town into hell
and massacare innocent Muslms.
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Nov 4th, 2009, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by happyheart
yeah i can but not my muslim brother and sisters in India.
i wish they could sleep as peacefully as i can.
but they never know when an idiot like Modi can turn their city/town into hell
and massacare innocent Muslms.
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Massacare .... Muslims ..... where .... now !!!!!!
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Nov 4th, 2009, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by happyheart
yeah i can but not my muslim brother and sisters in India.
i wish they could sleep as peacefully as i can.
but they never know when an idiot like Modi can turn their city/town into hell
and massacare innocent Muslms.
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maybe u should talk to some indian muslims.. forum.. and i can bet they will kick ur butt out..
pakistan only makes life bad for indian muslims... by supporting terrorism.. and driving the wrong image of muslims in peoples mind..
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Nov 4th, 2009, 04:12 PM
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maybe u should talk to some indian muslims.. forum.. and i can bet they will kick ur butt out..
pakistan only makes life bad for indian muslims... by supporting terrorism.. and driving the wrong image of muslims in peoples mind..
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Well to talk to Indian Muslims i do not have to go to forum you poor soul.
I have enough Muslim friend in Holland
and in India.
Only you get your satisfaction being on forums not me lolz
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Nov 4th, 2009, 04:17 PM
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Yeah you can sleep peacefully .... i see you are in Netherlands 
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so Netherlands does not have RAW branch or indian "trade consulate" ? Like they have around 20 in Afghanistan?
jisey hum sai milna, gawara nahee hai, hum sai mila na karey.....
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Nov 4th, 2009, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Decent 6Chora
so Netherlands does not have RAW branch or indian "trade consulate" ? Like they have around 20 in Afghanistan?
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bache ke jaan lega kya .... sone de isko .... asliat bata de to so nahe payega 
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Nov 4th, 2009, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by happyheart
Well to talk to Indian Muslims i do not have to go to forum you poor soul.
I have enough Muslim friend in Holland
and in India.
Only you get your satisfaction being on forums not me lolz
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^^^^
your actions seems to show otherwise..
if u had indian muslim friends in holland.. u would not be having these false pretenses... maybe try a better planned lie..
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Nov 4th, 2009, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy
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your actions seems to show otherwise..
if u had indian muslim friends in holland.. u would not be having these false pretenses... maybe try a better planned lie..
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Well i am only saying here what i hear from them
they go to India every year not me
or maybe they are telling me lies i dont know u should ask them.
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