simplyme

Just a question. Do you copy paste your posts. I dont see much difference in any of the posts that you keep posting continuously.

AzJaKa

I think after reading posts of you Indians i read nothing put you parroting the same nonsense.
do u agree with me?

Jalaluddin

well...it's been a few days and still haven't been offered any proof.
Guess it is just yet another Pakistani government attempt to deflect pressure.

Meanwhile there are bombings every other day in Pakistan.

AzJaKa

Even if you give India evidence they will never admit they are involved in terrorist activities its like bhens ke agay been bajaana.

DOVE

No need to blame India, look into our home first. What the garbage we have collected in our parliament, we are suffering from a severe leadership crises which India is not and has never suffered. They people have no courage , nothing. An international conspiracy led by India is working against our homeland. There are clear, concise and concrete evidences in the hands of our intelligence institutes but to expose Bharat we need courage to show the world what the terrorist state of Hindustan doing to us. This courage is produced by leadership which we don't have. .... the mental patient ''Zardari'' will do nothing.....

kprasad

This news is largely for internal consumption. Much of the world knows that. That's why you don't see any real statements of substance from India, or other Pakistani partners for that matter. No one is asking for proof, or verifying it independently.

The Pakistani state is turning against actors it used to enable 'strategic depth' in Afghanistan. Spurred on by the Urdu language dailies, there is quite a bit of support for the jihadis in this region. The red meat that's being thrown, that India has nefarious designs for Pakistan and is supporting jihadis, is to solidify support.

I agree with the Indian analysts that say Pakistan needs to do and say whatever it wants to combat the forces it's fighting now. If that means little news blurbs about India supporting jihadis, so be it. Pakistan is in a precarious situation.

picoico

Appreciate the understanding of Pakistan's delicate situation, however it would be folly to think that India still does not harbor animus towards Pakistan. There is no understanding on Kashmir, nor is there alignment on China's influence within Pakistan. India's alliances within the region also can be taken in a hostile vain, and hardly reflect legitimate domestic interests; a military alliance with Iran, and peddling for influence in Afghanistan.

Destabilizing Pakistan is not in India's best interests, however destabilizing it with a western presence may be thought to serve as a catalyst for the de-nuclearization of Pakistan. A clean break-up of Pakistan may also serve Indian interests, what's more by factions friendly to India.

I would like to believe Indian analysts, though. However, Pakistan can ill afford to think India will not attempt to be the regional hegemon.

simplyme

India does not have anything to gain by the collapse of Pakistan. India needs to have Pakistan as a buffer against the going ons in Afghanistan. A divided and unstable Pakistan is not in India's interests. India would not want the fighting to spillover to its borders...

The policy makers of India do realise this and would not do anything to destabilise Pakistan at this point in time.

WIPER

Not sure if India is really involved or not !!

But yes, you surely are feeling the heat which indians are feeling from the last 25 years from cross border terrorism.

kprasad

Particularly with the tail end of the previous Indian administration and in the current administration, the calculus on Pakistan has changed. The centre in India is no longer in the North. Certainly if one considers Mumbai to be South, the argument could be made that the centre in India has always been in the South.
Much of the animus, that India had, was because of the domination of the North in Indian politics, culture, and economics. That, there were Indian leaders that were born in present day Pakistan, had fought wars, shared a common Punjabi culture added to this. That is no longer the case. South Indians have nothing in common with Pakistanis, save a common love of cricket. We don't share a common language, culture, and there are no pre-partition bonds. If you consider the educated younger generation, having animus, as such, towards Pakistan is a non-issue.
India, spurred by the South, is concerned with one issue: economic development. That development is moving from the South to the North. The vast majority of India is impoverished. It's illeterate. It's being ravaged by diseases like AIDS. There is a Maoist insurgency because economic development hasn't made it's way to impoverished states like Bihar. North India is horribly corrupt.
India is a third world country that is making fast progress. States like Kerala in the South have
%100 percent literacy. Infant mortality rates are below developed countries. Bangalore, in Karnataka, is the hub of Indian business. There is no Maoist insurgency there, corruption is low, and it's quickly being developed. Indians like the Chinese know that economic development is the primary security concern.
In this environment, India does not see Pakistan as a partner. The biggest concern India had was a fragmented Pakistan in turmoil with control of it's nuclear assets in limbo. India was willing to go quite a bit to see that not happen. There was no military action after the attack on India's parlaiment. India kept the Iran-Pakistan pipeline plan alive, hoping the right mix of incentives would shape Pakistani positions.
Now everything India feared has come to pass. With the US guaranteeing safety of Pakistani nuclear weapons, there really is no reason for India to deal now. There is no government in Pakistan that can make a peace deal. The only thing for India to do now, is sit and wait to see how Pakistan's internal conflict plays out.
Still, with the hope of the 'non-paper' agreed through back channel diplomacy with Musharraf and with the approval of the Zardari government, the Indian government, at considerable political heat, did not take action after the Mumbai attack.
What India wants is transit routes through Pakistan. It wants a market in Pakistan for it's goods and services. It wants Pakistani farm goods and textiles.