Where are all the Anti-Smites? !8 Israelis Killed, and not a Thread?

[NYAhmadiX]

18 young people were killed in Tel-Aviv by a deranged suicide bomber. No one seem to give a hoot about that, while they don’t think twice for sympathizing with morons. For some the daily Nimaz is 4 Rakat anti-Semitism, and 2 Rakat Infanticide. They will go to oceans’ depth to find something anti civility, but will keep their mouth (or whatever part they talk thru) shut when innocent Israelis are murdered. Pre-meditatedly.

[Mr Xtreme]

Well if former terrorists can become Prime Minister of Israel, then I guess anything goes.

And as we established during the nuclear bombing of Japanese cities, where many young babies were probably incinerated, innocent casualties are often justified in the cause of war.

The people of israel voted for the Butcher of Shatila and Sabra as their president. You reap what you sow.

[Abdullah k]

When people are enslaved on their own soil, these kind of retaliatory acts are inevitable. When F16s are used to drop 1000lbs bombs on civil-populated areas, then it becomes a conflict without any rules of engagement.

Every young Israeli citizen goes through mandatory military training- ready for combat- therefore, blowing them up is same as killing soldiers who are off duty..why whine about it. Lets see what Sharon can come up from his bag of old dirty tricks. He has always vowed to avenge Jewish blood. As leaders of Hamas say, " Sharon is the last bullet Israelis are left with..let 'em fire it".

[NYAhmadiX]

>>>Every young Israeli citizen goes through mandatory military training- ready for combat- therefore, blowing them up is same as killing soldiers who are off duty..<<<

Abdulla What you are saying is (if I read you correctly) that every Palestinian is a possible suspected terrorist, therefore, Israel is justified in killing them without prejudice?.

Xtreme, The Butcher of 3 million Bengalis was awarded all kinds of medals of honor in Pakistan. Why not worry about that?

Still, no anti-Semites with their usual “I have a question” band? I am waiting.

[mAd_ScIeNtIsT]

Originally posted by NYAhmadi:
>>>Every young Israeli citizen goes through mandatory military training- ready for combat- therefore, blowing them up is same as killing soldiers who are off duty..<<<

Abdulla What you are saying is (if I read you correctly) that every Palestinian is a possible suspected terrorist, therefore, Israel is justified in killing them without prejudice?.

There is a difference. Not every Palestinian knows how to use a gun, or operate a bomb.

On the other hand, every single Israeli over the age of 18 has received military training to fight against Muslims and thus represents a clear and present danger to the Ummah.

Oh and the term Anti-Semetic is inaccurate. Bear in mind that the Semetic people include the Arabs. Accusing us of being Anti-Semetic would imply that we hate the Arabs too. In addition, it would not be accurate to describe us as Anti-Jewish. We do not stand against Jews. What we are against are Zionists, Jews who believe they have a right over Muslims and Christians to Palestine.

[NYAhmadiX]

Scientist,, spare me of your definition of anti-Semite. Please. Tell me how the hell the bomber knew that all those killed were over 18? I didn’t know that Hamas bombers are trained to make sure that everyone who will be killed is over 18.

[CM]

What you can't ask for me and malik by name??
You want get kicked around again??
Very well.

Terrorist bomber attacks kills 18 and injures 115.
So?
This is war, civilians are always in the way.
It is that simple.
The palestinian civilians are in the way when air craft hit the gaza strip.
I don't see you around saying what an inhuman crime it is.
If the Israeli military stops its violations.
I will be more than happy to condemn the bombers if they are doing it for provocation.
But as long as the israeli military uses force, i say the palestinians have the right to fight back.
Anything else???

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Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and die:

[NYAhmadiX]

CM.. let the grownups argue that, please. Don’t attach so much importance to yourself, honestly, most people skip your uneducated replies. Trust me. I gather that you are saying that it is good to kill civilians. If that be the case, then why worry so much about the F-16s?

[BombayKid]

CM,
"This is war, civilians are always in the way. It is that simple."

Hmmm....Interesting logic !! Need to remember that when we discuss other topics

[Mr Fraudia]

did anyone countthe total number of casualties on both sides this year?

surely all palestinians that were killed were not all fighters..

whether a plane drops bombs in civilian areas or a person explodes a bomb in a street, innocent people get killed either way. Civilians get in the eay, it happens, it should not happen...but it does. The fact that it happens does not make it right..period.

I am still interested in finding out the total number of civilian causalties on both sides since this recent skirmish started.

[NYAhmadiX]

Fraudz. What would the # of casualties tell you? More Palestinians have been killed by fellow Muslims than by the Israelis. Want some details? Again, the topic is about why do people keep their buttocks shut when tragedy against Jews happen and go all over the planet to announce atrocities committed against the Muslim brethren?

[Mr Fraudia]

Ny tragedy happened in rwanda too. Maybe we should start posting about every single tragedy everywhere in the world

[NYAhmadiX]

Fraudz..if you ask most who participate here, they wouldn’t know where in the world Rawanda is. They only know where Israel is and where Palestinians are.

[CM]

BK, this is the situation in all war of attrition.
Kashmir, Aceh - indonesia, Bosnia, Zaire, SA etc etc.
All these wars the civilians are the first to go down.
It is not ethical or right but realistic.

NYA, if you one group is targetting civilians ie the Israeli army, i think the palestinians have every right to do the same.

But you are right we do keep quiet about it, well we are baised.

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Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and die:

[BombayKid]

Why should Pakistanis (or Indians) get so worked up about what happens in the middle east. I mean we can be concerned but why have extra-territorial loyalties based on our religious affiliations ?

[The Old Man]

When was the war declared and between which two parties?

Can a military conflict be termed a "war" if only one is a recognized country?

Just asking

[Mr Fraudia]

Originally posted by The Old Man:
Can a military conflict be termed a "war" if only one is a recognized country?

Just asking

Nope then it can be named opression or genocide.

[CM]

Well if you are the US, it was not the veitnam war, it was a conflict.
The Bay of pigs was not an invasion or incursion but a fiasco.
The blocade of cuba during the cuban missile crisis - a signal of war - was not a blocade it was a curfew or something.
The wording was changed so it was not seen as a act of war.
Legal jargon covers up for the same thing.
2 different nations, ethnic groups and basically countries fighting over land is enough for me to call it a war.

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Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and die:

[Sadi Sobi]

I know I’m diverting from the topic slightly but that's what really annoys me about you guys. Ur all the same - take guys from my locality for example ... they couldn't tell me how many rakats to read for fajr namaz yet they can recall every single Palestinian death over the last 12 months. The fact that McDonalds' fries had beef extracts in them wasn't enough to put these people off eating them, but when the media reported on McDonalds giving money to the Israeli forces, all these paki guys stopped eating from there. When will you guys learn that Islam isn't about 'pic and mix'.

Take my friend - he hasn't read a namaz in years, drinks and dates girls like there's no tomorrow yet he laughed in my face when I questioned these suicide bombings and told me that he'll be going to Palestine once he graduates

It's just a whole big matcho culture for you guys isn't it - just a game. 'Oh we've killed more of them than they've killed of us'. Well it's not a game for those mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters who have just buried members of their families – and over what, a piece of land?

and don't talk to me about the religious significance of this land. I've heard it all before.

I was watching footage of that Israeli building collapsing last week and there was this eight year old kid who was screaming for his father who had just been killed. Do you want to know what my brother said? Serves the Jewish b*stard right. Same way that he thinks it served these kids right, the same way it served those in the holocaust right.

You lot disgust me.


[This message has been edited by Sadi Sobi (edited June 04, 2001).]

[Rani]

Sadi sobi..very well said. There are no winners in this kind of racist and religious war.