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Nov 20th, 2001, 02:50 PM
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man so am I, I guess I needed to see this, but did not need to see this..you know what i mean.
and this is not one case but this is going on right now.
NA is def bad news for people who even surrender, but this is going to be the case for anyone who does not do exactly what they wish for.
In the past thatis how they treated people from other warlords camps.
I am sad.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that... he is gone.
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Nov 20th, 2001, 02:55 PM
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FACTING HELL.
That is appalling and utterly disgraceful.
The NA are sub human animals.
Those *******s need to be facting killed.
The man who died might have been a murder.
He may not have been.
You do not humilate the man, strip him of his pride and they blow his brains out.
TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THIS YOU AMERICANS.
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Ours is but to do and die
Survived world PVP in Darfur.
In Queue for Afghangrasp.
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Nov 20th, 2001, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by CM:
FACTING HELL.
That is appalling and utterly disgraceful.
The NA are sub human animals.
Those *******s need to be facting killed.
The man who died might have been a murder.
He may not have been.
You do not humilate the man, strip him of his pride and they blow his brains out.
TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THIS YOU AMERICANS.
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I totally agree that these people are acting like animals, but are those AMERICANS doing the killing or fellow MUSLIMS?
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:13 PM
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It is very sick but pales with comaprison to 470 Talibans fleeing Kanduz killed by hardcore taliban and Pakistanis. It is amazing how these Afghans are being butchered by Arabs and Paksitanis. Many of these defecting talibans are fighting alongside with NA guys. I am sure they understand now how their country was taken for a ride by Osama and ISI thugs.
BTW the guy in above picture does not look like a Afghan. That might explain the anger of NA soldiers.
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:15 PM
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You condemned the act.
Good we are making progress.
As for the americans comment.
If you guys had not backed the NA, people would not be dying like that!
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:18 PM
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If the Taliban had turned over OBL or even better if he had not ordered the planes to attack us this would not be happening. War is a *****.
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:21 PM
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sheesh....this is pathetic.
and at the rate this discussion is going....it might be just suitable to add that if Americans had addressed their foreign policy a lot sooner, the attacks of 9/11 would not have happened.
get real, none of these are reasonable excuses.
"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." Mark Twain
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:25 PM
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We are seeing these pictures in the presence of the media. I can imagine what's been going through with people who don't have the looks of what NA doesn't like.
How can these barbaric people call themselves muslims with this treatment of humans?
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:27 PM
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I keep hearing how the USA should adjust its foreign policy. Why should we adjust our policy to suit the whim of any other country when we support most of the world in one form or an other.
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:30 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yogi:
It is very sick but pales with comaprison to 470 Talibans fleeing Kanduz killed by hardcore taliban and Pakistanis.
Yeah and you think only one has died that like taht?
It is amazing how these Afghans are being butchered by Arabs and Paksitanis. Many of these defecting talibans are fighting alongside with NA guys.
Yeah in your dreams.
Show me the links and articles.
No CNN is not a valid site.
I am sure they understand now how their country was taken for a ride by Osama and ISI thugs.
BTW the guy in above picture does not look like a Afghan. That might explain the anger of NA soldiers.
How the fact do you know?
He could be Afghani, he could have kids.
And since you ain't from the facting region how can you freakin tell??
The stupidity in this thread is unimaginable.
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ex-Army:
I keep hearing how the USA should adjust its foreign policy. Why should we adjust our policy to suit the whim of any other country when we support most of the world in one form or an other.
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I don't know why Americans are unable to understand that the words like "support" and "aid" takes a complete new meaning in the American Foreign Policy. For example "support" means supporting the dictators and authoritarian regimes coz it suits them.
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by CM:
You condemned the act.
Good we are making progress.
As for the americans comment.
If you guys had not backed the NA, people would not be dying like that!
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Of course I codemn the act. You're right, they wouldn't be dying like that. It would be the taleban acting like animals. Reports of similar attrocities by the taleban from 1996-2001 can be find all over the net.
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:45 PM
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So if we don't do what any other country wants then it make's attacking us on our soil OK and wrong to fight back. This shooting could have happened if we were not there being the two side had been fighting for years don't you think?
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:52 PM
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so essentially if I am a normal afghani citizen, i am screwed either way. Now the question is, could we do something to make the life of innocent people better than it has been?
foot soldiers are just that, how many of them did not want anything to do with what Saddam was doing during desert storm, how many of the taleban soldiers did not want to follow everything their leadership wanted. and as horrible the regime was, it afforded a litle bit more security to people.
Now lets make this a bit more clear with an example, what if you as a kid saw war, soviet attack and then warlords going at it..
then you see Taleban take charge. you see some security for everyone you say well this is the best thing i have seen so far, and you join them..then your leadership gets in bed with al qaeda..decides it wants to fight it out...Now..atthis point you are damned if you do and damned if you dont. you try to surrender and other Taleban will kill you, supposing the news are right, if you dont surrender you die fighting, which you dont really want to do, if you do surrender you get the type of treatment that these pictures just showed. what do you do?
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Nov 20th, 2001, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Grits:
Of course I codemn the act. You're right, they wouldn't be dying like that. It would be the taleban acting like animals. Reports of similar attrocities by the taleban from 1996-2001 can be find all over the net.
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 for condemning the act.
I do agree that Talebans killed their opponents especially Shiite Hazaras got the worst treatment. It was simply wrong but I strongly doubt anybody got any treatment like the one in the pictures. Northern Alliance are famous for their butchering techniques. Some of their commanders are ex-communist and the torture techniques used by them are reflective in their day to day life. For example General Dostum - an Uzbek warlord tied one person to the chain of the tank and asked tank to be driven around his place.
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Nov 20th, 2001, 07:51 PM
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May GOD bless that poor guys soul.They have pictures of those @#$%^& *^&$@#% they shold find them and kill them that guy was unarmed and surrendering
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Nov 20th, 2001, 08:05 PM
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genious who wants links for everything...As for as we are concerned this picture might be all staged as a part of propaganda. I assume it is staged, now give me a link thats proves that it actually happened? heck if USA can stage the landing on moon, this si not impossible to stage.
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Here is a quote from the article in Time on teh famous masscre of "children" in girls school in Mazar-e-sharif.
"On Monday, the Alliance commanders decided to allow 12 local mullahs to try to persuade the Pakistanis to surrender. In the afternoon the group approached the school armed only with copies of the Koran. "Surrender, surrender, surrender, brother Muslims!" they shouted. "Follow the book of peace!" Suddenly, automatic gunfire erupted from the shattered windows. The mullahs fell where they stood, clutching their holy books. "Now we had to kill them all," says Atta's ground commander,.."
[This message has been edited by Yogi (edited November 20, 2001).]
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Nov 26th, 2001, 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by Yogi:
genious who wants links for everything...As for as we are concerned this picture might be all staged as a part of propaganda. I assume it is staged, now give me a link thats proves that it actually happened? heck if USA can stage the landing on moon, this si not impossible to stage.
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Here is a quote from the article in Time on teh famous masscre of "children" in girls school in Mazar-e-sharif.
"On Monday, the Alliance commanders decided to allow 12 local mullahs to try to persuade the Pakistanis to surrender. In the afternoon the group approached the school armed only with copies of the Koran. "Surrender, surrender, surrender, brother Muslims!" they shouted. "Follow the book of peace!" Suddenly, automatic gunfire erupted from the shattered windows. The mullahs fell where they stood, clutching their holy books. "Now we had to kill them all," says Atta's ground commander,.."
[This message has been edited by Yogi (edited November 20, 2001).]
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These pictures appeared in major newspapers around the world taken by a western news agency's photographer.
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Nov 26th, 2001, 04:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Grits:
I totally agree that these people are acting like animals, but are those AMERICANS doing the killing or fellow MUSLIMS?
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Are you blind or just plain s-. Or both at the same time.
No wonder you see things (history) from other perspectives.
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