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Jul 28th, 2009, 03:44 AM
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Triskaidecaphobic
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What is zionism......? Where did it came from........what exactly does it says.....is it good or bad??
Technically, I Should Be A Mod Or Something..................But Mentally, I'm Sane!
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Jul 28th, 2009, 08:33 AM
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JAI MATA HINGLAJ KI
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Zionism is good. It can not be bad.
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Jul 28th, 2009, 09:01 AM
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Zionism is the international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine. The area was the Jewish Biblical homeland, called the Land of Israel (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra'el). Since the creation of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily as support for the modern state of Israel.
Zionism is based on the foundation of historical ties and religious traditions linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, where the concept of Jewish nationhood first evolved somewhere between 1200 BCE and the late Second Temple era (i.e. up to 70 CE).Two millennia after the Jewish diaspora, the modern Zionist movement, beginning in the late 19th century, was mainly founded by secular Jews, largely as a response by European Jewry to antisemitism across Europe, especially in Russia.The re-creation of a Jewish national homeland was also strongly advocated by American scholars, such as Louis Brandeis, as a solution to this "Jewish problem" and a way to "revive the Jewish spirit."
It is a type of the broader phenomenon of modern nationalism.Initially one of several Jewish political movements offering alternative responses to assimilation and the position of Jews in Europe, Zionism grew rapidly and after the Holocaust became the dominant power among Jewish political movements.
The political movement was formally established by the Austro-Hungarian journalist Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century following the publication of his book Der Judenstaat.The movement seeks to encourage Jewish migration to the "Land of Israel" and was eventually successful in establishing Israel in 1948, as the homeland for the Jewish people. Its proponents regard its aim as self-determination for the Jewish people.The proportion of world Jewry living in Israel has steadily grown since the movement came into existence. Today roughly 40% of the world's Jews live in Israel. A similar number live in the United States (see American Jews).
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Jul 28th, 2009, 01:23 PM
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Hey!!!thanx dude.....i thought zionism was some kind of a religion...
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Jul 31st, 2009, 08:34 PM
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Zionism approves apartheid against non-Jewish people.
Anyone can be Zionist, even Muslim Pakistanis.
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=24532
Saudi charity funds al-Qaeda linked Pak terror outfits
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Jul 31st, 2009, 08:49 PM
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Kuttey tainthon Uttey :)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost souls
What is zionism......? Where did it came from........what exactly does it says.....is it good or bad??
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It's reasons are somewhat similar to wanting to return to where a certain religion originated.
Like Muslims wanting to return to Mecca Mukkarma
If all Muslims went back there, it will be hard to accomodate us all!
or if all the Budhists of China want to go back to where Budha was born in India
The Budhist will have to expell all the Indians!
Manaa ke teri deed ke qabil naheen houn main
tu mera shouq dekh mera intezaar dekh..Iqbal
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Jul 31st, 2009, 08:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arleitter
Zionism is good. It can not be bad.
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When I was 10 I used to think in a similar good v.s. bad manner as well.
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Jul 31st, 2009, 08:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SindSagar
It's reasons are somewhat similar to wanting to return to where a certain religion originated.
Like Muslims wanting to return to Mecca Mukkarma
If all Muslims went back there, it will be hard to accomodate us all!
or if all the Budhists of China want to go back to where Budha was born in India
The Budhist will have to expell all the Indians!
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Well said 
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Jul 31st, 2009, 10:53 PM
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Zionism is the cause of most problems today.....even the current financial crisis!
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Aug 1st, 2009, 12:21 AM
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Triskaidecaphobic
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^^ and how is that?
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Aug 6th, 2009, 08:12 AM
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You will understand when you stop following the news that is being dished out by SkyNews etc...
Also zionism is responsible for swine flu, AIDS etc..
Just wanted to preempt some of the posters. This is not my view though.
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Aug 6th, 2009, 11:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simplyme
You will understand when you stop following the news that is being dished out by SkyNews etc...
Also zionism is responsible for swine flu, AIDS etc..
Just wanted to preempt some of the posters. This is not my view though.
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Since when is ridiculing others' opinion and different views a sign of intellect or knowledge? If anything it's arrogance and a sign of sheer ignorance.
Zionism was, is, and continues to be a fascist movement. Its very doctrine was constructed by European Jewish Bankers who have not only always funded both sides of the wars that have taken place, and reaped profits, but aim to establish a one World Govt. IMF and UN are only stepping stones. UN was established after the second world war, and constructed in a way that it would only serve the best interest of the World elites (and they come in all sizes, and colors).
Think of Rothschild, Rockefeller, and other fat cats and their links are very much connected back to the days of Hilter where they very willingly financed his fantasies of a supreme aryan race. In effect, European Jews (read Zionists) funded the massacre of their poor brethren for the sake of world dominance and establishment of Isreal (Zionism's gift to the world).
Please learn your facts instead of shooting off smart allec'd remarks which only display foolishness.
Cheers
Now before you come stooping low and attacking me, and you probably will (side effect of being called out on the spot), please state facts. No one wants to hear about the fiction. Thanks.
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Last edited by vigoratus; Aug 7th, 2009 at 12:02 AM..
Reason: typo
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Aug 6th, 2009, 11:44 PM
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And i'm not confused, i don't believe that practicing Jews support or believe in Zionism. The very principle of Zionism is against Judaism, hence a score of Jewish Activist groups that are against Zionism as an ideology, and creation of Israel as a nation.
Neturei Karta is one such organization consisting of Orthodox Jewish Rabbis that feverously oppose the creation of Israel, and often march against Zionism.
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Aug 13th, 2009, 04:10 AM
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Triskaidecaphobic
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Since Israel has been created, what is Its significance now?
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Sep 7th, 2009, 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simplyme
Also zionism is responsible for swine flu, AIDS etc..
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Well, Zionism is at least responsible for America's disastrous Iraq war. Also, Zionism is responsible for an apartheid racist regime in Middle East.
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