Why do India's Dalits hate Gandhi? - Page 8

happyheart · Oct 29th, 2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Punjabee in USA

^ How about having done some real research for starters instead of copying/pasting from a biased Dalit source ?

Now you answer my question - why should one believe this guy over a UCLA historian and black South Africans/ANC/Nelson Mandela and even Jinnah (who knew Gandhi personally) ?

Well as long as you have nothing whatsoever to refute the article "but" shouting in the air we cannot go along with you mohtaram.

Punjabee in USA · Oct 29th, 2009, 03:24 PM

I know that the best you can do is to quote some random "Sardarji"

Next time, try some authentic source for world history.

happyheart · Oct 29th, 2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Punjabee in USA

I know that the best you can do is to quote some random "Sardarji"

Next time, try some authentic source for world history.

so sad so sad

Why condescending attitude towards Sardarji's?

Marasi_Dee · Oct 29th, 2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Punjabee in USA

^ How about having done some real research for starters instead of copying/pasting from a biased Dalit source ?

Now you answer my question - why should one believe this guy over a UCLA historian and black South Africans/ANC/Nelson Mandela and even Jinnah (who knew Gandhi personally) ?

And how do you know that he did not do the real research?

There are references listed all over. This is how history is researched. Or do you want him to be reborn in Karamchand's era and tail him everywhere?

First you wanted to have documented evidence, I have given you that. You can not deny that evidence, but are questioning those people who have quoted from there. Here is one more time the example:

" Why, of all places in Johannesburg, the Indian location should be chosen for dumping down all kaffirs of the town, passes my comprehension."

Of course, under my suggestion, the Town Council must withdraw the Kaffirs from the Location. About this mixing of the Kaffirs with the Indians I must confess I feel most strongly. I think it is very unfair to the Indian population, and it is an undue tax on even the proverbial patience of my countrymen.

Do you deny the fact that Mohandas Karamchand wrote this racist letter against black people to Dr. Porter?

Punjabee in USA · Oct 29th, 2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marasi_Dee

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" Why, of all places in Johannesburg, the Indian location should be chosen for dumping down all kaffirs of the town, passes my comprehension."

Of course, under my suggestion, the Town Council must withdraw the Kaffirs from the Location. About this mixing of the Kaffirs with the Indians I must confess I feel most strongly. I think it is very unfair to the Indian population, and it is an undue tax on even the proverbial patience of my countrymen.

Do you deny the fact that Mohandas Karamchand wrote this racist letter against black people to Dr. Porter?

Read the letter in its entirety, instead of reading and quoting out of context. Gandhi was fighting FOR the rights of the Indians in SA. He was not fighting AGAINST blacks.

happyheart · Oct 29th, 2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Punjabee in USA

Read the letter in its entirety, instead of reading and quoting out of context. Gandhi was fighting FOR the rights of the Indians in SA. He was not fighting AGAINST blacks.

bro
you cannot make a saint out of someone for whom a human being (Dalits) were considered scum of the earth it does not befit mr. Gandhi.

Punjabee in USA · Oct 29th, 2009, 05:06 PM

^ Well, you are entitled to your opinion however misguided it might be. And no one is asking YOU to make a saint out of him; there are enough people to do that

happyheart · Oct 29th, 2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Punjabee in USA

^ Well, you are entitled to your opinion however misguided it might be. And no one is asking YOU to make a saint out of him; there are enough people to do that

Equally enough people who do not consider him worthy of calling a saint

don't forget them please.

happyheart · Nov 4th, 2009, 12:34 PM

Those in denial please WATCH:

Many people form their opinions of this so called 'mahatma' based on watching Ben Kingsley's movie. Statues of him have been erected all over the globe. He is spoken of as the 'father of world peace', freed India from the tyranny of the Colonial English Empire and so on.
There are quite a few people who are outraged that this man is regarded in this way.
Hopefully this video will show why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQO1uNhw_1s